Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders
Peace Popat Thanks yes we must always keep striving for the Truth and never be contented/complacent /smug with what is our current situation. Guidance is form Allah (swt) alone.
I have no problem with whatever ethnicity MGAQ wants to accredit himself with. It’s just his inconsistency always changing positions and relying on ever ready ‘WAHI’ to back up his claim.
Believe me, if it had helped his cause he would have managed to link himself with British Royalty. And he would have WAHI ready at hand to vouch for his claim.
This is just a minor issue – The major issues is that the Quran and authentic ahadith are against him.
Popat I think you were not being fair to **brother psyah **– In verse 5:75 it is not exclusively as you want it to be - “They both used to eat food.” Have a look at the various translations.
Muhammad Asad The Christ, son of Mary, was but an apostle: all [other] apostles had passed away before him; and his mother was one who never deviated from the truth; and they both ate food [like other mortals]. Behold how clear We make these messages unto them: and then behold how perverted are their minds!
M. M. Pickthall The Messiah, son of Mary, was no other than a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) had passed away before him. And his mother was a saintly woman. And they both used to eat (earthly) food. See how We make the revelations clear for them, and see how they are turned away!
**Shakir ** The Messiah, son of Marium is but a messenger; messengers before him have indeed passed away; and his mother was a truthful woman; they both used to eat food. See how We make the communications clear to them, then behold, how they are turned away.
Yusuf Ali Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!
Dr. Laleh Bakhtiar The Messiah son of Mary was not but a Messenger. Surely, Messengers passed away before him. And his mother was a just person (f). They both had been eating food. Look on how We make manifest the signs to them. Again, look on how they are misled!
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Wahiduddin Khan** Christ, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger. Many messengers passed away before him. His mother was a virtuous woman; and they both ate food [like other mortals]. See how We make the signs clear to them! See how they turn away!
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T.B.Irving** Christ the son of Mary was only a messenger; messengers have passed away before him. His mother was sincere. They both ate food. Look how We explain signs to them; then look [again] how they shrug them off!
Al-Muntakhab Indeed, the Messiah, the son of Maryam, was no more than a Messenger; many Messengers like him have passed away before him. His mother was a woman vested with saintliness of life and character; she and her son consumed food. See how We expound to them Our revelations, yet you see how they counsel deaf.
Progressive Muslims The Messiah son of Mary, is no more than a messenger; like whom messengers have passed away; and his mother was trustworthy, they used to eat the food. See how We clarify the signs for them, then see how they deviate.
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Abdel Haleem** The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a messenger; other messengers had come and gone before him; his mother was a virtuous woman; both ate food [like other mortals]. See how clear We make these signs for them; see how deluded they are.
**Abdul Majid Daryabadi ** The Masih, son of Maryam, was naught but an apostle; surely there passed away apostles before him and his mother was a saintly woman; both of them were wont to eat food. Behold! how We expound unto them the evidences! Then behold! whither they are deviating!
Ahmed Ali ** The Christ, son of Mary, was but an apostle, and many apostles had (come and) gone before him; and his mother was a woman of truth. They both ate the (same) food (as men). Behold, how We show men clear signs, and behold, how they wander astray!
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Aisha Bewley The Messiah, the son of Maryam, was only a Messenger, before whom other Messengers came and went. His mother was a woman of truth. Both of them ate food. See how We make the Signs clear to them! Then see how they are perverted!
**Ali Ünal ** The Messiah, son of Mary, was but a Messenger; Messengers had passed away before him; and his mother was an upright one wholly devoted to God; both of them ate food (as do all mortals). Look, how We make the truths clear to them, then look how they are turned away from the truth and make false claims!
Ali Quli Qara’i The Messiah, son of Mary, is but an apostle. Certainly [other] apostles have passed before him, and his mother was a truthful one. Both of them would eat food. Look how We clarify the signs for them, and yet, look, how they go astray!
Amatul Rahman Omar The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a Messenger, all the Messengers have (like him) passed away before him, his mother was a highly truthful woman. They both used to eat food. See how We explain the arguments for their good, yet see, how they are turned away (from the truth).
**Hamid S. Aziz ** The Messiah, the son of Mary, is only a Messenger: Messengers like him have passed away before him; and his mother was a saintly woman. And they both used to eat food. See how We clearly explain to them the revelations, yet see how they turn aside!
Muhammad Mahmoud Ghali In no way is the Masih son Maryam (The Messiah son of Mary) (anything) except a Messenger. The Messengers before him already passed away, and his mother was constantly sincere; they both used to eat food. Look how evident We make the signs to them; (then) thereafter look (again) however they are diverged (into falsehood).
Muhammad Sarwar Jesus, the son of Mary, was no more than a Messenger before whom there lived many other Messengers. His mother was a truthful woman and both of them ate earthly food. Consider how We explain the evidence (of the Truth) to them and see where they then turn.
Muhammad Taqi Usmani The MasiH, son of Maryam, is no more than a Messenger. There have been messengers before him. His mother was very truthful. Both of them used to eat food. Look how We explain signs to them, then see how far they are turned away.
Shabbir Ahmed The Messiah, son of Mary, was no other than a Messenger, like other Messengers before him who passed on. And his mother was a woman of truth. Both of them were human beings who had to eat food (like all other mortals). See how clearly We explain Our verses for them and note how they keep wandering in thought!
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Syed Vickar Ahamed ** Messiah (Christ), the son of Maryam (Mary) was no more than a messenger; (And there were) many messengers that have passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They both had to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah does make His Signs clear to them; Yet see in what ways they are misguided far from the truth!
Umm Muhammad (Sahih International) The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded.
**Farook Malik **Christ, the son of Mary, was no more than a Messenger; many Messengers had already passed away before him. His mother was a truthful woman; they both ate earthly food like other human beings. See how the Revelations are made clear to them to know the reality; yet see how they ignore the truth!
Dr. Munir Munshey Christ, son of Mary was no more than a messenger! Many messengers have passed before his time. His mother was a righteous woman and (like all mortals) both of them had to eat (to live). See how clear have We made Our signs for them! Yet, see how they wander astray.
Tahir-ul-Qadri The Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), is (nothing) but a Messenger (neither a god nor a son of God, and nor His partner). Many Messengers have indeed preceded him and his mother was a paragon of truth (saintly person). Both (were mortal creatures as they) used to eat food. (O Beloved!) Observe how clearly We explain the Revelations for their (guidance) but again observe how (in spite of that) they are turning away (from the Truth).
Dr. Kamal Omar Al-Maseeh, Ibn-o-Maryam is none but a Messenger. Definitely went before him (many) Messengers while his mother (had been) a Siddiqah. They both used to eat food (which is essential to sustain a human being physically). Look how We explain to them the proofs, yet look how they indulge in falsehood.
Bilal Muhammad Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger. Many were the Messengers who passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They both had to eat their food. See how God makes His signs clear to them, yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth?
Maududi The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a Messenger before whom many Messengers have passed away; and his mother adhered wholly to truthfulness, and they both ate food (as other mortals do). See how We make Our signs clear to them; and see where they are turning away!
**Bijan Moeinian ** Messiah, son of Mary was no more than a Prophet. Many Prophets like him came and gone. His mother was a righteous woman. they both ate food [as they were humans.] See how I clearly make my point and note how they still resent the truth.
**Faridul Haque **The Messiah, the son of Maryam, is purely a Noble Messenger; many Noble Messengers have passed before him; and his mother is a truthful woman; they both used to eat food; see how We make the signs clear for them, and see how they turn away!
Hasan Al-Fatih Qaribullah The Messiah, the son of Mary, was not except a Messenger, other Messengers had gone before him.His mother was in the state of sincerity, they both ate food. See how We make plain to them Our signs.Then, see how perverted they are.
Maulana Muhammad Ali The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a messenger; messengers before him had indeed passed away. And his mother was a truthful woman. They both used to eat food. See how We make the messages clear to them! then behold, how they are turned away!
Muhammad Ahmed - Samira The Messiah Mary’s son is not except a messenger, the messengers had past/expired from before Him, and his mother (was) always very truthful, they were eating the food; look/see how We clarify/explain to them the signs/evidences, then look/see where they be turned away .
Sher Ali ** The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a Messenger; surely Messengers like unto him had passed away before him. And his mother was a truthful woman. They both used to eat food. See how WE explain the Signs for their good, and see how they are turned away.
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Yusuf Ali (org.) Christ the son of Mary was no more than an apostle; many were the apostles that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how God doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!
**Rashad Khalifa ** The Messiah, son of Mary, is no more than a messenger like the messengers before him, and his mother was a saint. Both of them used to eat the food. Note how we explain the revelations for them, and note how they still deviate!
** Hilali & Khan ** The Messiah (Iesa (Jesus)), son of Maryam (Mary), was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother (Maryam (Mary)) was a Siddiqah (i.e. she believed in the words of Allah and His Books (see Verse 66:12)). They both used to eat food (as any other human being, while Allah does not eat). Look how We make the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to them, yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth).
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Arthur John Arberry** The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a Messenger; Messengers before him passed away; his mother was a just woman; they both ate food. Behold, how We make clear the signs to them; then behold, how they perverted are!
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Edward Henry Palmer** The Messiah the son of Mary is only a prophet: prophets before him have passed away; and his mother was a confessor; they used both to eat food. - See how we explain to them the signs, yet see how they turn aside!
**George Sale **Christ, the son of Mary, is no more than an apostle; other apostles have preceded him; and his mother was a woman of veracity: They both eat food. Behold, how we declare unto them the signs of God’s unity; and then behold, how they turn aside from the truth.
**John Medows Rodwell ** The Messiah, Son of Mary, is but an Apostle; other Apostles have flourished before him; and his mother was a just person: they both ate food. Behold! how we make clear to them the signs! then behold how they turn aside!
Phew! Colour coding took a lot of time (sniff sniff) 
Part 2
Popat you are trying to read the verse to fit in with your beliefs.
Christians tacitly attributed divinity to Hz. Maryum (ra) addressing her as ‘Mother of God’.
By combing them both together Allah (swt) is nullifying divinity attributed to both Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as) and his mother. Saying like mortals they ate food - Allah (swt) does not eat!
Allah (swt) did not declare him dead. Allah (swt) said: Messengers like him had passed away – here Allah (swt) is nullifying divinity which Christians had attribute to Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as). Allah (swt) is telling the Christians just like other messengers had passed away Jesus is not a God, he too, will pass away. It is ONLY Allah (swt) who lives for Forever.
Sorry, **Bigboi **– You are wrong!
Mirza is honorary title both in Persian and Turkish (Mughals – ethnicity of MGAQ) It is not exclusive to Persian.
There is overlap being so close to each other.
*The title itself came from the title emir. Emir, meaning “commander”, -derived from the Semitic root Amr, “command”. Originally simply meaning commander or leader, usually in reference to a group of people. It came to be used as a title of governors or rulers, usually in smaller states
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*Mirza (Persian: میرزا, Turkish: Mirza, Uzbek: mirzo, Russian: мурза, Circassian: мырзэ), (common variance in Tatar nobility as Morza) is of Persian origin, denoting the rank of a high nobleman or Prince.[1] It is usually translated into English as a royal or imperial Prince of the Blood. It signified male-line descent and relationship to the Imperial Families of Turkey, Persia and later South Asia and was the title borne by members of the highest aristocracies in Tatar states, such as Khanate of Kazan, Khanate of Astrakhan and in the Russian Empire (Under Catherine the Great’s rule the Murzas gained equal rights with the Russian nobility).[2] In fact, Prince Felix Yusupov, the nephew-in-law of Tsar Nicholas II of Russia was descended from Abdul Mirza, the first Prince Yusopov.[3]
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*Mirza was given to imperial prince; a title or part of a name implying relationship to the Turk dynasties like Mughal dynasty (the Imperial House of Timur).[7] But in Indian royal families, the title can be placed both before the name and after it, such as Prince Mirza Mughal and Prince Kamran Mirza. Prince Khusrau Mirza was the grandson of Emperor Babur (Babur Mirza), son of Emperor Jahangir and a brother of Emperor Shah Jahan. Emperor Akbar Shah II was Prince Mirza Akbar before his coronation. Emperor Babur took the imperial title of Padishah on 6 March 1508, before which he used the title Mirza.[8]
In the Indian subcontinent, especially Bengal and Bihar, the Mirzas are also known locally as the variant of Mridha (from Mirdhjah) usually due to the Bengali language not have a ‘z’ sounding alphabet.[9] Mughal dynasty (the Imperial House of Timur "Sarai Mulk Khanam Qutubuddunniya wa Deen Amir Qutubuddin Taimur Baig Sahib-e-kiran).< Rulers of India included:*
Mirza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
People claiming to be from Prophet (saw)'s progeny normally attach Syed to their name - After the Wahi MGAQ didn’t.