Desi parenting ish-style

I agree that Parents has to stay away from beating et al.

But, kids Just ask this question to yourself and seek an honest answer,

Is there anyone else in this world (teacher, principal, neighbour, relative, government, NGO, etc ...) Jo tumhare tarakki aur kushali ke liye din/raat mehnat aur koshish karta hai?

Based on what answer you come up with, try to make efforts to work with your parents.

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Some good comments in the thread but I would like to point out that kids are pretty resilient and God did give them a mind of their own to chose. So while it's important to treat them well and bring them up right, don't be obsessed about it. I believe that if my daughter grows up to be a wonderful person, it has a lot more to do with her choices than mine and same if she grows up to be screw up.

NJMasti girlie - I totally identified with your post. I don’t mind the guilt trips. I sometimes think that if my parents didn’t voice it out - that “mujhay ehsaas bhi nahin hota” what they have given up for us.

Their careers, their home, their country, their relatives.. everything for their kid’s betterment.

My parents were first generation immigrant students while I was growing up. Saying that money was “tight” would be an understatement. But they did their best and they were happy. They were happy so we were happy.

As a parent - I realize that parenting is such a balancing act. I don’t agree with putting kids down but I want my children to have some sort of “ehsaas” as to what their parents do and give up for their sake.

(I haven’t figured how to do that just yet :bummer: )

whatever your ways are never blame it on kids that because of them you had to SACRIFICE your life :slight_smile: It’s difficult to understand parents when they say these things - because they always had a choice to bring you or NOT into this world.

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I have heard no.4 sooooo many times.. Being honest it just went in one ear and out the other.. 'I gave birth to u...' (to which I used to answer 'I didn't ask to be born')..

lol

that’s a good attitude to have!!!

I wished I could pass it on from one ear to the other… :cb:

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3 and 4 :mad:

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I agree
(with)
Chee.

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aah thats a quite rude answer. Dont think I will take it from my kid.

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^ i agree. coz giving birth is the only reason Islam gives so much respect to mom more than to dad. even quran says remember how ur mother carried u( can't quote the eact translation as i don't hav it handy). Islam never say its ur choice to hav or not hav kids n if u had them u did nothing special. i think its being ungrateful for all ur parents did for u n u only realize it once u r a parent urself. Having said that i used to be equally rude to my mom but the day i concieved i started realizing wat my mom has gone through while giving me birth n then raising me.

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I hate when parents act like they're doing a big huge favor raising you, feeding you, clothing you, schooling you etc. Gosh thats just so messed up, they CHOSE to have kids they should have thought about the responsibilities that come with it too.

Beatdowns is what went down in my fam. Dad would never touch the girls, but ammi did do the odd joothi-throw or smack here and there. Honestly it wasnt brutal, heck it wasnt even that bad, and I think it kept us in check. But sometimes we were just so fearful of her too.... so thats a negative. I dont think your kids should literally tremble from fear if they've done something wrong... thats not a healthy relationship.

Blackmail is just a no go and putdowns are even worse. I'm doing the whole parenting thing now and I have to admit its not so easy, sometimes you just have to bite your tongue and not say whats really on your mind cuz at the end of the day Im the adult and the way I bring up the kids (siblings) is going to affect how they live life and value relationships and thrive in society. I have to be rational , understand and accepting of each and every one of them and respect their individuality while keeping authority, which will never be achieved through crooked means.

I do respect parents but it doesn't mean if a Mother wants their son or daughter to marry some person they feel zero attraction or spark with she can get her way by churning out the 'I gave birth to you' line. I've seen many many parents act this way, they use that line (as well as 'Heaven is at your Mother's feet' - which of course it is but interpret it as meaning they can act however they like without any recourse) to manipulate situations and emotionally blackmail their kids into doing things they don't feel comfortable with..

Totally agree.

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i HATED getting the silent treatment from my dad.
if i ever did anything wrong, he'd stop speaking to me until i apologised.
it caused a lot of resentment and anger and truthfully, it still bothers me. i've made every effort to avoid doing that in my relationship with my husband and iA will not do it to my kids either!
ultimately, there was this huge distance, he didn't understand where i was coming from or why i wanted to just have a life and friends, and in turn, i stopped communicating with him. apologies were insincere and forced and mostly after days of tension in the home.
arrrgh! so frustrating!
i love my father, but i don't think i'll ever get over the silent treatment trauma.
it was like, how can you forget i exist because i wanted to go to a concert or to the movies with my friends? is it really that easy for you to deny my presence? because honestly, it didnt seem to bother him that much.
meh.

also, why do desi parents never tell their kids they love them? its only now, after many years and many arguments that things have finally settled and AH, we end every phone call with "love you". but for the longest time, i had no memories of my parents telling them they loved me.
now that's a fail.

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you just described my parents. weird.

ye what's up with parents of our generation?

Me too - hanging out with friends was like a semi-crime. Going to parties and concert was full crime!

lol

At least your parents end their conversation with "love you"... we don't even do that. We just have a heart to heart feeling that we do love each other... but it's never mentioned... to top it off we never hug.

Hugs are reserved for Eid only and that too by mom. Never from dad and brothers.

lol

that's a messed up culture.

I cannot imagine going without hugs and kisses and I love yous - to my kids. It's difficult to understand parents of our generation to go without hugs and kisses and I love yous...

...it's wierd - but you just can tell it from their eyes on how MUCH they love you - yet never say it

OMG i think im gonna write a 10 page post- scroll down to avoid.

Ok so my parents never yell at us in public or hit us. And they aren't into clothes and jewellery at all, they always say apni parhai par tavajo do.

But i can give soo many examples of things that are messed up. It's nearly all my dad. He lives in his own sort of bubble so the few interactions he has with his kids are more memorable. And I sorta wish they weren't, cuz so many of them suck.

1. No direct communication, always using a third party.

Ex. my dad will say "bari wali se kaho k xyz kare" and my mom is like "usse seedhi baat karo" but he doesn't. When I was little I used to think my mom is so mean cuz she is always saying stuff to me, but it was really my dad.

2. saying stuff behind the kid's back.

Ex. last week, my sis had a grad party in a big hall. Towards the end, her white friend came with her mother to surprise her and my dad was like "Please! come take some food! let me get you a chair!! etc". like he's mr. hospitality. then later on my dad was getting mad at my mom for letting my sister invite her white friend and that he cant wait to kick her out. Again my mom was like "JUST TELL HER" but he doesn't. So my sister thinks my dad is so nice but really he is saying bad stuff about her.

3. Unnecessary mean comments

ex. the other day i was telling my high school age brother how to get more scholarships and my dad was like "tell her don't advise him! is ne khud bara kuch kiya apni zindagi mein". I thought that was really mean because the reason I didnt get the scholarship was because i wasn't a US citizen and secondly i was trying to help.

oh yeah and one time i was at a dawat with my friends and they are really pretty, and my dad was like "she is very mediocre in looks, abhi se dekhna shuru kardena chahiye" and my mom was like "khabardar meri beti ko kuch kaha"...idk my dad never makes any comments on women's looks so to hear the first comment be about me..being ugly...damn i felt SO fug lol

4. Plays favorites

My dad has this thing where he picks a favorite child, and that's his favorite kid for the next 3,4 years. Like my youngest brother is sorta dark cuz he plays outside all day, so when he was the non-favorite, my dad wouldn't say his name, he would just call him "kaala" like "woh kaala kahan gaya" and each time he would get a bad grade from school he would call him "nakamma" and "lailag sa". He used to favor my lighter brother all the time, and the funny thing is this brother doesn't even talk to him now that he's grown up. And the brother he called "kaala" is actually more caring towards him. So he's the current favorite.

5. Double standards
My dad watches movies and shows with my brother and laughs... and some of these shows like yo mamma are pretty vulgar. With my sister, it was so different my dad screamed at her over little mermaid having dirty clothes!

6. Thinking that disagreeing with parents means disrespecting them

ok yesterday my mom was telling me that dad is saying to get a Rolex watch for my future behnoi on the mangni day....i said it's too much because then what will we get them on shaadi, plus he's not a showy type. So my mom and i just kept talking back and forth about what to get...my dad came out of nowhere and just SCREAMED in my face "QUIET!!" i was so startled i almost began to cry...it was just one word but still....my mom was so mad telling him that yeh koi tareeqa hai bolne ka?? but my dad was like "no! bohot over hori thi! interfering in the matters of parents!" my mom said "to kya hua? bus apni rye dehri thi na?? apni behn ki liay itni khush hai, kuch behnain jal jaati hain" but my dad was STILL so stubborn and saying im out of my limits.

My dad doesnt realize that disagreeing doesn't mean disrespect; i disagree with my mom on something almost everyday but we have a really good relationship because we just talk things out. This is definitely a desi thing; like students dont argue with professors, kids dont argue with parents, etc. and they think their family is more stable that way but it's a lot of fake respect, which promotes backstabbing.
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7. Never apologizing**
Only my dad. My mom is the total opposite; sometimes i'll be half asleep and my mom will be sitting next to my bed saying sorry for something i dont even remember!
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8. Silent treatment**
Ok like a month ago, my mom took down all the pictures in the hallway and my dad flipped out because he said my mom is trying to get rid of his parents and family. my mom was like ??? i took down ALL the pictures not just that one. But he didn't talk to my mom for a WHOLE month afterwards. and my poor mom was cooking him food everyday, doing everything extra...then one day out of the blue he just started talking.
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9. Always making a reference to being a provider **
my dad always acts like it's a huge favor that he's still with our family. he always says hes trapped to support us and cant leave bc of what ppl will say. when my mom tells him to be nicer to us, that yeh bachay bare ho kar kya sochenge? my dad just replies all of us that we should appreciate him, if he left all of us will die kuttay ki maut on the street. that's true....but then he wonders why my sister and i are doing "2 tukkay ki job"

These events probably don't even take up 1 hour of 1 day, remaining 23 hours are happy and normal, but it seems like i remember that one hour much more clearly.

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^ some of the things are pretty traumatic.

It would be difficult but just ignore your dad completely. The things he says is horrific esp. to his own child!

Seems like he is totally distanced from you guys... but be strong. Don't keep these things in mind... these are just some type of domestic "violence" - they are the silent ones.

Wish you the best. Be strong and resilient.