Deserters and Civilians accomplish what Iraqi troops can't

And that is to slow the coalition advance on Baghdad.

Busload after busload of deserting Iraqi troops and civilians are surrendering to US troops outside Baghdad. “There are so many people on the road now that it’s impossible to further conduct military operations and so our unit has stopped now and set up a hasty prisoner of war compound,” said ABC correspondent Mike Cerre. “What is stopping us now is the flood of deserters and civilians, on buses, trucks, taxicabs and whatever they can catch a ride on, trying to make their way south to their families or American forces to surrender” he said."

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=2501924

Intelligent people ..

on a second thought .. i would say that’s the basic survival instincts ... run from the place where merciless bombs will shower ... and the only people to seek help from may be the very ones who pour this rain of destruction .. very interesting … don’t u think?

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Intelligent people ..

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Very. If only some of the leaders in the Iraqi military would acquire such intelligence. This whole thing would be over in no time.

Yep for eye-raq maybe.

hmmm remarkable..

so let me get this straight.. whoever wants to desert or leave the city is allowed to by the regime??

I mean where are all the threats.. the blackmailing by the Iraqi government?

They're injected with a slow-acting pioson on the way out....PA really you must get more hours of Fox in in a day.

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hmmm remarkable..

so let me get this straight.. whoever wants to desert or leave the city is allowed to by the regime??

I mean where are all the threats.. the blackmailing by the Iraqi government?
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May I ask by what path of logic and critical thinking you arrived at your conclusion? That groups of living deserters and fleeing civilians are able to leave Baghdad certainly is evidence that not all deserters and civilians are being effectively prevented from leaving. Does your mind work in such a fashion that you conclude that all soldiers are free to desert and all citizens are free to flee?

Don't bring logic into your debate old man you were doing miserably enough as it is.

pardon my flow of logic cuz while following events unfold around Basra i have been told to believe, by none other than my trusted mainstream networks and other 'credible' news sources that the 'uprising' that wasn't was due to the dwindling control of the Iraqi government over their servicemen and the civilians alike..

Knowing fully well that Baghdad was where the Iraqi government exercised complete control.. at leat much better than that in Basra, the news of such desertions brought a tear to my eye but proved to be a minor speed bump in the flow of my logic.

Nevertheless.. let them fly to safety.. cuz it sure is safer outside than in.

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pardon my flow of logic utd cuz while following events unfold around Basra i have been told to believe, by none other than my trusted mainstream networks and other 'credible' news sources that the 'uprising' that wasn't was due to the dwindling control of the Iraqi government over their servicemen and the civilians alike..

Knowing fully well that Baghdad was where the Iraqi government exercised complete control.. at leat much better than that in Basra, the news of such desertions brought a tear to my eye but put a slight dent in my logic forumulated as explained above.

Nevertheless.. let them fly to safety.. cuz it sure is safer outside than in.
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Gee. Even in Basra I saw pictures from the front lines of some Iraqis fleeing the city. There is nothing inconsistent between reports of some Iraqis being shot for trying to desert and some civilians being shot for trying to flee and other reports of some Iraqis deserting and some Iraqis fleeing.

The fact that there now seem to be more Iraqis fleeing and deserting from Baghdad than before might very well be indicative of the fact that the US military might be telling the truth when it says it has decimated several Republican Guard Divisions in and around Baghdad. Of course, you could choose to believe the Iraqi Information Minister who denied US troops were in Iraq while we were watching them on TV speeding across the desert or who continues to say US troops have not crossed the Tigris.

Nevertheless, I agree about letting them flee to safety. They have much more to fear on the inside from and because of Saddam's henchmen than they do on the outside from US troops.

I only know of some division decimated outside Baghdad.. I didn't know the US Army claims about destroying Iraqi divisions inside of Baghdad.. breaking news???

and well myvoice.. u can't blame me for putting more weight into the Iraqi briefings.. afterall they were the ones who told us that Basra hasn't been taken when all US sources claimed otherwise..

I hear the British forces are still at it..

Yup the US 'farces' will be throwing rose petals into the city to coax Saddam out. Civilians are fleeing out of date cheese in the markets of Baghdad.

well Basra was supposed to fall within 12 hrs according to some estimates. Still waiting....

Basra was some guy on the Iraqi frontlines with one leg, he fell in 13 but took a handful of GI's with him.

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fleeing maybe from US BOMBS .. may not be as much from the dictator ass ... how do we know? or do we?