All are subcontinent foods with a distinct dividing line between muslim influenced & hindu influenced (also non veg & veg )
Just as there is NO PAKISTANI food so there isnt a BHARTI food or cuisine .Isnt for Pak india is Bangladesh Nepal ,Pakistan & Bharat put together SUBCONTINENT .
Its hegonomy of India (the biggest among the 4 ) to try to usurp the ancesteral logo (brand name) patent by itself …thats why no body likes India the usurper bully big brother …
Andhra, you want him to define Pak cuisine or Pak culture as well? I’m not too familiar with indian history and I don’t really care if mot of it is altered over the time anyway. But to my best understanding of the whole hoopla, India has not been India for so long as we know her today. Anyway, you’re right it takes generations to build cultures food is just a part of it. We Pakistanis don’t deny the fact that we’re influenced by many cultures, indian included, many however don’t know that we’re just as much influenced by Persian, turk, greek etc cultures, so in theory our Pak cuisine in a combo of all that and more. A lot has happened since 1947, you’ll see a clear difference in our eating habits, you’ll rarely find a Pakistani being in total love with daal, meat any time any day, as I understand you guys prefer well cooked vegs and daals. The difference bw you and us is that you claim ownership of everything even remotely related to India, we’re not so obsessed with such details. If we were obsessed enough we would have had Pak food history proving every ingredient and words in recipes, fortunately we’re not therefore most of our restaurants sell Pak and indian food instead of claiming all the credits, even though as you can see you guys list doesn’t match mine and we both know mine is the best
So what you saw up in my post was a part of Pak cuisine, lassi for instance is not the same on both sides of the border, indian Punjab has this thick thing they call lassi whereas I’ve only seen patli lassi in Pak Punjab. There’s a clear difference in roties as well, but these are details.
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Thanks for desc, I think I’d like to try something from this list, dunno what though. Could you point out something spicy and crispy from your list please?
By the by only Masala dosa is crispy and spicy. The others are spicy but not crispy.
Bisibele bath is spicy khicidi and rava idly is steam baked rice cakes.
although the food which is served in most Indfian restaurants is Punjabi, there is still a distinction. Sikhs from India cook food in a slightly different way, generally using a lot more haldi, and traditionally, the diet was more vegetarian, although that may have changed now - I know that because I had a couple of good friends at school who were sikhs.
You can call these muslim dishes if you like - this is Maddhur Jaffrey’s view (fampous Indian film actress who turned successful TV cook in the UK). I think it’s easier to just call them Pakistani, as it’s what most people in Pakistan have always eaten.
What makes it uniquely Pakistani is the fusion of Indian (Bharati if you prefer)cuisine and Iranian/Turkish influence(kebabs, naans etc).
If you want to claim it as Indian then go ahead. you can claim Pakistan as Indian as well, like your VHP mentors, but it won’t change anything. Every time you open an atlas it will stare you in the face :- P-A-K-I-S-T-A-N.
Contemplate this fact next time you enjoy your lamb biryani and namkeen lassi and learn to live with it
Incidentally, Bengalis are the same. They live on fish and rice at home, then claim that Pakistani food is their invention just because they got a job as a chef in some poxy restaurant in Brick Lane.
although the food which is served in most Indfian restaurants is Punjabi, there is still a distinction. Sikhs from India cook food in a slightly different way<<
Now, now!! Don’t try and invent ‘Sikh’ cuisine!! If you look around most of the Punjabi Dhabas are run by Sikhs and ChannMahi here might get offended if you say there are separate Sikh and Punjabi Cuisines!!
You can call these muslim dishes if you like - this is Maddhur Jaffrey’s view (fampous Indian film actress who turned successful TV cook in the UK). I think it’s easier to just call them Pakistani, as it’s what most people in Pakistan have always eaten.<<
Again , If you HAVE to drag Religion into this, it is more appropriate to call them
‘Dishes adopted by converted Hindus Because Arabs don’t know How To Cook’ dishes.
If you want to claim it as Indian then go ahead. you can claim Pakistan as Indian as well, like your VHP mentors, but it won’t change anything. Every time you open an atlas it will stare you in the face :- P-A-K-I-S-T-A-N. <<
I am not claiming Pakistan. Do you advice toclaim or associate with failures?
Incidentally, Bengalis are the same. They live on fish and rice at home, then claim that Pakistani food is their invention just because they got a job as a chef in some poxy restaurant in Brick Lane. <<
I don’t know about Bengali Claims, except they cornered ‘Moooochli’ Cuisine(Not my pronounciation!!). I like their desserts though.
I love all the BBQ food all the kebobs seekh, chapal, kaleji, boti, etc...
also I love mughlai cuisine such as haleem, nihari, gola kabab, karhai gosht etc..
and the indian gujrati food.
As for cuisine, many times cuisines overlaps.
such as those of pakistan afghanitan, turkey and mediterranean countrys, iran's bbq cuisine derives from afghan cuisine pretty much like that of pakistan. However, there are characteristics that are unique to every region. Pakistan's food is very unique to the region indeed and so is India. For India to try to claim Pakistan's cuisine is as pathetic as Pakistan trying to claim kashke badomjan or chelo kebob of iran.