adra already pointed out the reason Ira .. I am a very sick kind of Mod .. I enjoy these fights … 
and to me, a thread is not an essay competition where you are required to stick to the topic, nor its a board meeting where a conclusion needs to be reached ..
this thread might have served its purpose but if Guppies want to come and keep picking on each other’s comment, who am I to police them around .. its not that I am a mod here .. o wait .. I am 