Defence Day: Sep 6th, 2008: Share the war Stories:

Please share your personal experiences or those of your family relating to the 65 or 71 war. below is my personal experience of the 1965 war with India.

It was a normal day like any other. The sun was shinning, the early morning bus rush was on and as usual I was meeting a few friends at the bus stop in the hope to hop on to one of the buses to get to school. The bus duly arrived, overloaded with passengers and we squeezed our way through managing to get on the bus. On the way to school which was around 5 miles from my house everything was normal, nothing unusual. Overall, there was a certain amount of tension in the air as clashes with the Indian army on the Kashmir border had been going on for quite sometime and the danger of war breaking out was quite high. My house was near Shalimar garden which is approximately 14 miles from the Wagah border.

At school we settled down in our classes and it was around 10 AM when we heard some planes and then a huge explosion rocked our school and some windows in our class shattered. In panic we started to rush out of our classes. Our teachers were desperately trying to push us back into the classes. Pandemonium and mayhem broke loose for the next 15 minutes or so before calm was eventually restored. We didn’t know what had happened. The teachers were all huddled together and after a while we were told that the school was being closed and that we should go home. One of my friend’s drivers came to collect him and four of us jumped into his car and headed home. We were driving towards Shalimar gardens and saw people in their thousands streaming the other way. The driver told us that India had attacked Lahore in the morning and these were refugees from the border area. We were concerned and bewildered. As we were crossing the Railway Bridge on our way to our homes the planes reappeared once more and we heard further explosions. The car shook. Our driver stopped the car on the bridge, opened the door and ran away. All four of us were still sitting in the car looking at the fighter planes as they swooped up and down and forward and backwards oblivious to any danger, we were in fact enjoying what was going on up in the skies. Calm returned after a while and our driver reappeared and we resumed our journey. This was the start of the war on 6 September 1965.

I cant remember exactly but I think it was late afternoon when the than president Ayub Khan addressed the nation and announced that India had attacked Pakistan and we were at war. TV was a rare commodity in those days and most people heard his speech on radio.

Nightly curfew was announced and everyone was told to keep their lights off or if people wished to put their lights on they would need to blacken out all windows and make sure that no light could be seen from outside. The blackout was in force throughout the 17 days of the war. Also civil defence people used to patrol the streets at night making sure no one was breaking the curfew and that no Indian spies were lurking around.

Trenches were dug out in virtually all streets of Lahore for people to take shelter during air raids. The Zinda dilaaney people of Lahore never took to those trenches but used to go on roof tops to cheer their heroes fighting to protect them. There was the famous dog fight over Lahore which lasted for quite sometime and virtually the whole of Lahore was on roof tops shouting Allah O Akbar and urging on their airmen. After this dogfight the air force appealed to people to stay indoors as it made their job difficult because they didn’t wanted any unnecessary civilian causalities.

I remember one night around 4 am announcement was made in our area through mosque speakers that Indian air Force had dropped some para troopers in our areas and that we should be on the look out for them. Despite the curfew, People got out of their houses with hockey sticks and cricket bats in their hands looking for any Indian spies. Soon the army arrived there and took over the operation, from what I remember a few spies were apprehended.

A few days into the war a big long range gun was installed near our house and it used to pound the Indian positions non stop. It used to go off with a big bang and you could hear the boom of the shell being launched till it used to hit its target. After a while we became used to it’s noise.

The whole nation used to gather around their radios at news time to hear what was going on.

In a way it was a quite a civilised war in that both Pakistan and India never targeted any civilian areas and civilian causalities were very low.

My lasting memory of that war from a personal point of view which has always stuck in my mind was one evening I was standing on my roof and I saw a fighter heading towards the Indian border at very high speed and flying very low. As the fighter came overhead I waved at it thinking it was a PAF fighter and prayed to Allah for its safe return from India. Just at that moment I noticed the Indian flag on that plane and a feeling of anger came over me. Than I saw two fighters overhead chasing the Indian fighter. I waved at them and again prayed for their safe return. Somehow that particular instance has stuck in my mind ever since.

It was a war when the nation became one, they stood like a rock against the enemy and backed their armed forces to the hilt. There was pride, there was determination, there was patriotism and everyone was a Pakistani to the core. There was no fear, just determination to defeat the enemy and defend our lands.

United we stood against the aggression and defended our country. I have never seen such unity before or after that war. When an appeal was made for blood donation the hospitals were overwhelmed with people donating blood. People donated anything they could towards the war effort and gave very generously towards housing the refugees from the border areas providing them with food and shelter.

May Allah bring that unity back to our nation.

Beautiful memoirs Ehsan bhai. Thanks for sharing.

Here is some of what I remembered from 1970 war

I was about 4 yrs old and we were living in PIB Colony in Karachi during the war of 1970. For some reason, there was silence the whole day. But as soon as the night comes, battle used to start. We could hear booms and bangs and every now and then fighter planes zooming across the sky.

War is a serious thing but for a 4 years old, the thrill of black out nights was amazing. My mother had a little stove lamp and she used to bring food in small aluminum pots from the kitchen into our room and heat the food on top of the stove in a dark room. We were allowed to watch TV with windows close so no light could seep out.

It was a rental house and we were on the second floor. Landlord allowed us to sleep in his house on the ground floor cause 2nd floor was more prone to the attacks for some reason (or at least that is what we used to think), although I think that in case of bombing, first floor people had an equal chance of dying by getting crushed by the falling debris of the floor above them.
All the taxi cabs had the top half of their head lights painted black, to keep the light beam closer to the ground.

The ugliest reminder of the war was the hate slogans against Bengalis and then formed Bangladesh on the walls.

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Amazing stories EB and TLK. The combination of thrill and fear!

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Thank you very much for sharing your memories Ehsan bhai and TLK, it's great to read the experiences and get a feel of how things would have been.

Very enthusiatic @ TLK and Mr.ehsan

I don't have any detailed story to share, My mother tells me that she was in 9th class when the war 1965 started, she still remembers the sharp sounds of fighter planes, she says that was horrifying. Also she added that the teachers at her school used to provoke the girls to shore up the spirit of their country's fighting soldiers by gathering funds and food for them (Soldiers)

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Elegance, your mother is probably referring to the same noises which I described at the start of my post. The initial attack by the Inidan Air Force.

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You are right sir. My uncle (Mother's brother) used to be very curious to see the fighter planes flying and my grandmother always scold him not to go at the chhat (roof) of the house.

I was watching ptv earlier today, and one of the brigadiers who faught in the tank battle of chawinda was invited to share his experiences. He said that India had come in with about 250 tanks, and there were tanks "as far as eye could see." He only had 14 tanks with him at that time. Since he couldn't take them head-on, he decided to fight them using the guerilla warfare tactics of hit and run. He was able to destroy 16 Indian tanks that day, and Indian military retreated as they thought they were fighting against hundreds of tanks. This gave Pak army enough time to transport more tanks on that front.

Thanks for sharing ehsan bhai,
(Indian view) My father was in his teens when 1965 happened. There wasnt a radio in our house. Actually there used to be very few in the whole village. He used to walk kms to the village center ( Panchayat office) to hear the radio. There used to be large crowd gathered to hear the news. Not many people from our place had joined the army at that time. ( we are from far south). But still patriotism was very evident. After the war many people joined the army, including my father. He was only 15 at that time.

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I do not have any war story, but my best defense day memory is to take a trip every year to Rawalpindi to go to the air force defense exhibition with my brother. And getting close to the fighter jets and once, i think in 1988 or 1989 i was put into the cockpit of some Mirage. That was awesome.

In '65 I was a kid in Lahore. I remember what sounded like big howitzers booming all night. When the siren played, I remember lights were turned off and we had to run outside into trenches. I also remember how scared I felt when my father came home at night, lying down in bed with his boots on and a revolver on his side, in full battle gear. A few hours of rest and then gone again. I remember hearing stories about how we only had a few tanks to oppose a huge Indian offensive and the diversion that had to be created.

I remember the jawans had rifles and backpacks (phitoos). One time, I remember sitting in a trench at night and seeing Indian airplanes overhead. Then hearing three really loud booms. Next morning we went to see the site where the three Indian bombs had landed. After the war I remember a trip to a place that I think it was called Khem Karun that we had occupied. I remember the posters from thatt war. The heroes were Raja Aziz Bhatti Shaheed and MM Alam.

In '71 my memory is chiefly regarding the fate of two families, one of a neighbor and of an uncle who were both taken POW in E. Pakistan. I remember how my father and mother were often trying to help them obtain rations, foods and services.

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i myth is alloted with PAF Base Masroor’s mighty Swimming pool that “Wahan per kisi zamanay main bomb gira tha” :hehe:

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Oh my input is very much needed here and I overlooked it!!!

I was 8 years of age in 1971. Those were very frigthening days for us. We were mostly confined inside our homes. And nights were even more scaring then. There used to be complete black out outside the homes and there used to be only candle light inside homes or that famous zero watt bulbs.

We could not play in the streets or in the parks as there were many protective trenches dug in the park. And there were several Indian air raids almost daily. Once I was playing in the street around noon and soon after warning sirens Indian plains raided Karachi. One night some shells fell on our nextdoor neighbour's house.

We always used to hear about that "Vikram" which we called bukram then. That was an Indian ship that came close to Karachi. Once they bombed Kemari's oil termnials and the fire could be seen from all over Karachi for several days.

We used to chant this in the street:

"Aik gali may ana jana, dosri gali may bum
Indira Gandi kya laray gi hum karay jang".

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Does anyone remember "shastri ki botian"?

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^ No but I remember my parents saying there was this jello/candy they used to sell back then and they referred to is as indira gandhi ki botiyaan :hehe:

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Yes indeed but Shastri was India's PM during 1965 war.

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They must be referring to the 1971 war then?

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Yes. But in Karachi they were called shastri ki botian. Squared jellies with coated sugar!