Dedicated to those who deny Prophethood after Hazoor (SAW)

Now the next topic of concern is the issue of Khatmal-Anbiya. The regular Muslims say we are non-Muslim because they say we deny Khatmal-Nabuwwat (seal of Prophethood). This is ignorance on their parts, and if you look at our claims closely, then you will find that we are the most in tune with Khatmal-Anbiya. The Promised Messiah (AS) has said:

“It is alleged that I and my Jamma’t do not accept the Holy Prophet (pbuh) as khatam-un-Nabiyin. This is a great lie upon us. The strength, certainty, and full understanding with which we believe in the Holy Prophet (pbuh) to be khatam-un-Nabiyin and accept his as such, others do not believe even in a 100-thousandths part of it” (AlHakam 17 March 1905)

You see the claim by the Promised Messiah (AS) was that he was totally in the shadow of the Holy Prophet (SAW). So much so, that he became like a reflection in the mirror to him. Now we look at Jesus, and he was a Prophet- was he not? Did he bring about any new creed? In reality, NO. He became a prophet just through his subservience to Moses (AS). Now are you Muslims saying that a person who follows in the footsteps of the person whom you confess to believe in as the chief of all Prophets and Mercy for mankind, are you saying that THAT person cannot attain prophethood? You see, we only believe that Shariah has ended with the Holy Prophet (SAW). The Holy Quran is the last book, because God assured it’s protection. Unfortunately, people do not remain the same throughout centuries. That is why the Holy Prophet (SAW) said that when the faith of Islam would degrade to the lowest of points, a man of Persian desent would resucitate it. That is Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS), the Promised Messiah and Imam Mahdi (AS). With his sound reasoning and arguments and divine support, in a time when 100’s of thousands of Muslims were turning Christian (through Christian priests from Britain) and even Hindu in India, God raised a Prophet from the small village of Qadian. He published Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya to wide acclaim and all Muslims named him the mujaddid and reformer, and the foremost among Muslims. It was only after God gave him the glad tidings of his call to prophethood did those same people turn into his worst opponents. Take a look at the books of the Promised Messiah (AS) and then tell me that they are the works of a man not commisioned by God, or of a dishonest man, or a man with any selfish motives. Just take a look, and maybe then you’ll realize the truth of Ahmad (AS).


Evidence from the HOly Quran:

[45:17] And verily, We gave the Children of Israel the Book and sovereignty and Prophethood; and We provided them with good and pure things, and We exalted them over the peoples of their time.

So prophethood was given to the children of Israel in subordination to earlier prophets, yet you deny it to what you profess to be the most complete and perfect of all religions?

[4:70] And whoso obeys Allah and this Messenger shall be among those on whom Allah has bestowed His blessings - the Prophets, the Truthful, the Martyrs, and the Righteous. And an excellent company are they.

So God is saying that WHOSO obeys Allah and his messenger, there are 4 degrees of rank which they may attain:

  1. PROPHETHOOD- This is clear evidence from the above verse, yet you continue to insist that it is impossible? Pray to God to wash away your ignorance, you fear Mulla’s more than God.
  2. Truthful
  3. Martyrs
  4. Righteous

[33:41] Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah, and the seal of the Prophets and Allah has full knowledge of all things.

In this verse it says that Muhammad (SAW) is the seal of all prophets, or Khatam-un-Nabiyan. But in order to interpret what is meant by seal, we should look at hadith and interpretations by Muslim Saints:

Hazrat Ayesha (RA) has narrated that " Say he, ie, the Holy Prhopet (SAW) verily is the seal of Prophets but say not that there is no prophet after him." Hazrat Abdur Rahman Assalmiyye narrates that he used to teach Hazrat Hasan and Husain (RA). Once Hazrat Ali bin Abu Talib (RA) passed nearby him while he was teaching them, so he said to him, Teach them Khatam Nabiyyeen with vowal a: on Ta. [Durr E Manthoor vol. 5 page 386]

“Abu Bakr is best of men after me except a prophet should appear.” (Kanzul Ummal)

The Holy Prophet (SAW) said: “I am the last of the Prophets and my mosque is the last of the mosques”.
-So how many mosques have been built since then?

Hazrat Sayyed Abdul Qadr Jalani has said that “the coming of law-bearing Prophets has ceased with the advent of the Holy Prpohet (SAW) as he has been exalted to Khattam-al-Nabiyan” (Al Insan al Kamil page 115)

‘Hazrat Abu Ja’far, while discussing the Quranic verse: “For verily We granted the Book to the children of Abraham…,” said that God vouchsafed to the children of Abraham, Messengers, Prophets and Imams. But what is ironic is that people believe in what God blessed the children of Abraham with and yet they deny this blessing for the progeny of Muhammad.’ (Al-Saafi Sharah Asool Al-Kaafi, Part 3, Pg. 119)

The Muhaddith of Dehli, Hazrat Shah Wali Ullah subscribed to this opinion and stated: ‘The meaning of the Holy Prophet being the Khataman Nabiyeen is that there shall not now appear a person whom God may appoint with a new Law for mankind, that is to say, there shall be no prophet who shall come with a new Law.’ (Tafheemati Ilahiyyah pg. 53)

Hazrat Imam Abdul Wahhab She’raani has said: “…prophethood has not been abolished and it is only law-bearing prophethood that is abolished” (Al Yawaaqeetu Wal Jawaahir: Vol. 3 pg. 35)

Maulana Abdul Haye of Lukhnow says: “It is not impossible that a new prophet may appear during or after the age of Muhammad but bringing of a new code of religion is an absolute impossibility.” (Dafi-ul-Wasawis fee asr ibn Abbas, p. 12)


There are just so many more, and even Imam Bokhari, whom all Muslims love and respect as a revered saint of Islam interpreted Khatam-ul-Nabiyan as just the end of law-bearing prophethood. How can you deny a community based on truth? Look at what the Holy Quran says on judging the truth of a claimant:

[11:19] And who is more unjust than he who forges a lie against Allah? Such shall be presented before their Lord, and the witness will all say, ‘These are they who lied against their Lord.’ Now, surely, the curse of Allah is on the wrongdoers,
[11:20] Who turn men away from the path of Allah and seek to make it crooked. And these it is who disbelieve in the Hereafter.
[11:21] Such can never frustrate God’s plan in the land nor have they any friends besides Allah. Punishment will be doubled for them. They can neither hear, nor can they see.
[11:22] It is these who have ruined their souls, and that which they fabricated shall fail them.
[11:23] Undoubtedly, it is they who shall be the greatest losers in the Hereafter.
[11:24] Verily, those who believe and do good works, and humble themselves before their Lord - these are the dwellers of Heaven; therein shall they abide forever.
[11:25] The case of two parties is like that of the blind and deaf, and the seeing and the hearing. Is the case of the two alike? Will you not then understand?

Is this the case with Ahmadiyyat?

Re: Dedicated to those who deny Prophethood after Hazoor (SAW)

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*Originally posted by mani32: *

[11:19] And who is more unjust than he who forges a lie against Allah? Such shall be presented before their Lord, and the witness will all say, 'These are they who lied against their Lord.' Now, surely, the curse of Allah is on the wrongdoers,

so now u have a verse that fits on ghulam ahmed....

[11:20] Who turn men away from the path of Allah and seek to make it crooked. And these it is who disbelieve in the Hereafter.

and the people who try to present his (ghulam ahmed) words as Words of Allah....

[11:21] Such can never frustrate God's plan in the land nor have they any friends besides Allah. Punishment will be doubled for them. They can neither hear, nor can they see.

as we have seen that ahmedis havent really played a big role in any religious issue....

[11:22] It is these who have ruined their souls, and that which they fabricated shall fail them.
[11:23] Undoubtedly, it is they who shall be the greatest losers in the Hereafter.

ahmedis, know ur fate....

[11:24] Verily, those who believe and do good works, and humble themselves before their Lord - these are the dwellers of Heaven; therein shall they abide forever.

ofcourse needless to say these r the muslims....

Is this the case with Ahmadiyyat?

yes it is, as i have said with each verse above....
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and may Allah guide us all to His True Religion....

Yet again, there is nothing new in these arguments. All of it has been posted before and discussed countless time.

This thread is being closed as it clearly violates the Moratorium. If you have nothing better to post than Ahmadi/Qadiani propaganda then you better find some other forum that allows such stuff to be posted. GS is not the place.