DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah...the REST get LIFE!

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah…the REST get LIFE!

He should not have been shot at all.

The person who shot him had an itchy finger.

Regardless, the boy was left there to die, the worst is the moment when he begged to be taken to hospital, no one listened or cared till it was too late. :mad:

That was the height of cruelty. That requires examplary punishment.

If someone shoots someone, and does not do anything to prevent the death, then it is murder.

Besides, how is it a revenge? Am I missing something? :confused:

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah...the REST get LIFE!

When the boy was caught and made to stand against the bus he should not be jumping around like he was , that poses a threat to those who have guns , they can take it that this guy is looking for an opportunity to snatch a gun and use it against them. Any guy who got a little training in self defense will tell you that. When a guy has a gun at your head then you just stand still you do not move a muscle that is a universal law.

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah…the REST get LIFE!

I am purely talking legality of the sentence. According to wiki, the elements of common law murder are:

  1. Unlawful
  2. killing
  3. of a human being
  4. with malice aforethought (a deliberate and premeditated killing of another motivated by ill will)

The way I see it, number 4 was missing. it was not a premeditated killing.
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Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah...the REST get LIFE!

I agree with your thinking. By I hope by 'Peshawar' you don't mean the Pakistani city but 'professional'!

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah...the REST get LIFE!

very wrong spelling on my part. I apologize for that. Yes I meant professional.

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah...the REST get LIFE!

I think that the one that shot him and the one that ordered him to be shot should get serious punishment but the rest should be let off lightly with just a few years sentence.

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah...the REST get LIFE!

If two shots are fired using a dangerous and powerful weapon, and no ambulance is called then that is premeditated. The intention to kill is present.

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah...the REST get LIFE!


and, also the fact that they tried to cover-up like a professional criminal...they lodged false FIR's with the local police...the shooter is a trigger happy lunatic. he must be put to death ASAP...no need to waste time. he should be killed by firing squad, and let him bleed to death just like Sarfaraz did. he'll burn in hellfire for ever, iA

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Can I remind you some thing
Sialkot killings of two brothers (Discretion
All police officers arrested are bailed out and on their duties (If you can say their work,duty). I don’t know exact but most arrested are too free.
See that again if you can
Sorry there is no justice available
dramas only

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah…the REST get LIFE!

i agree there is NO justice for ALL, but at least in Sarfaraz’s case, it was served swiftly and accurately…let’s hope all charged in other heinous crimes be punished soon…Allah ke ghar der hai, andher nahiiN…is dunyaa meN bach bhii gaye to kia…aaKhirat meN to be-maut marnaa hai inheN…sazaa hii sazaa aur jalte raheNge taa abad-ul-abaad. iA

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HE IS ALSO AWARDED LIFE IMP…

You have different glasses
Look again
They look professional killers.
They were enjoying killing
Yes it looks that no intent
Just killing for fun
I am thinking about those who were killed without camera

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah...the REST get LIFE!

May be u right! its seems to me like a secerify to obtain some postive immage about seucity agencies, isnt a fast and quick verdict?

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah…the REST get LIFE!

If you see the video, at the time he was shot, he was not snatching the gun.

Also the kid was unarmed.

Many others were armed and were not the sissy girls who can say the kid was killed in self defence.

The boy/kid was in panic. You are assuming that a person who is in the center of all guns pointing at him will act rationally. He was not really trying to snatch gun that would be really stupid for him to assume he would get away with that when other guards had guns.

He pleaded mercy. (Listen to his words and how he begged). Mercy was denied.

That was the most pathetic act.

OK.

Here is the excerpt frrom this link.

The **definition of murder **has evolved over several centuries. Under most modern statutes in the United States,

murder comes in four varieties: (1) intentional murder; (2) a killing that resulted from the intent to do serious bodily injury; (3) a killing that resulted from a depraved heart or extreme recklessness; and (4) murder committed by an Accomplice during the commission of, attempt of, or flight from certain felonies.

Some jurisdictions still use the term malice aforethought to define intentional murder, but many have changed or elaborated on the term in order to describe more clearly a murderous state of mind. California has retained the malice aforethought definition of murder (Cal. Penal Code § 187 [West 1996]). It also maintains a statute that defines the term malice. Under section 188 of the California Penal Code, malice is divided into two types: express and implied. Express malice exists “when there is manifested a deliberate intention unlawfully to take away the life of a fellow creature.” **Malice may be implied by a judge or jury “when no considerable provocation appears, or when the circumstances attending the killing show an abandoned and malignant heart.”


**Basically, intention to kill or take life is only one variety of murder. Its ‘expressed’ absence does not elminate the term ‘murder’ altogether.

When the boy was denied much needed medical help, the **implied **intention to kill (Intentional serious harm to him) became **expressed **intention.

By the way it was illegal to shoot him as he was unarmed and did not pose a threat to guards.

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah…the REST get LIFE!

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Another Death Sentence today

GHQ attack mastermind Dr Usman sentenced to death

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah...the REST get LIFE!

I fully understand that he was not snatching a gun or trying to snatch a gun. But he was not stay put and was jumping around while guns were pointed at him.
He could plead for mercy by staying put instead of jumping around, that jumping around poses a threat to an armed person of losing their gun , if he could get a chance to do so.
As I said earlier , any self defense expert you will talk to they will tell you to follow the directions of an armed person and do not make any sudden moves. He was doing exactly the opposite , he was making sudden moves posing danger to his own life and others.

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah…the REST get LIFE!

You mean his sudden movements posed a threat to guards who were armed and despite the fact that he was not? :confused:

I have no idea why are we even having a discussion or have a dispute over this event, when the video clearly showed a guard pointing the gun at the boy with cold face …who had no weapon in his hands (first few secoinds) and no one followed the procedures like

telling him to lay down!
put your hands behind the neck!
do not move or I’ll shoot!..(Still should not shoot if he moves and if the person has no weapon).
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He could have easly been subdued by two or three guards, but shooting him?**

Not justified and totally uncalled for. Abuse of authority and utter inhumanity.

It is about time a reform be made to educate some of these so called guards carrying guns on the streets. No difference in them from the robbers.

And when these guards are really needed they are nowhere to be found.

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah…the REST get LIFE!

I agree to that , makes lot of sense. :k:

Re: DEATH SENTENCE to the Ranger who KILLED Sarfaraz Shah...the REST get LIFE!

i wish they can do the same thing with mumtaz qadri and others!