death of a non-muslim friend

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what does the islam say regarding this?

for instance, like when a muslim person dies, you shouldn’t mourn for more than three days, etc

and how does one pray for non-muslims?

like when Abu Jahal died and Rasullah (S) did burial for him, he was told not to do it that way

however, Abu Jahal was not a nice person either

as muslims, how should we deal with the death of non-muslim person close to us?

i ask b/c recently a kid who went to my high school was killed by hit and run as he was walking home. i didn’t know him, but my best friend did, and needless to say all who knew him are very devastated. i want to offer words of advice and comfort, but i dont know myself

obviously as a human being you feel major sympathy and sadness, but often people turn to religion when seeking answers and comfort as well

i know he himself was very strict in his own religion, so his family has been praying non-stop

[now before anyone gives me smart ass replies, i want no rude or offensive comments and no fighting to ensue…the more that happens in this forum, the less i want to come here…its really sad that that is what the religion forum has come to-i ask this out of real concern and curiosity and that i don’t know]

thanks, Salam

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Re: death of a non-muslim friend

Well.. the best in this case is to reflect upon the question "Why are we muslims in the first place?"

The answer is right there. We do not have to fight and put up our logical selves infront of the commands.

My Opinion.

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well.. i dont know how we r suppose to do it according to religion but i did go to a funeral of a non muslim friend. i attended the service at the church and gave my condolences to that person's family in person. other than that i guess u can just pray for him in namaz. i dont think Allah miya will mind praying for anyone regardless of difference in religion.

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when did the prophet (saw) do burial for abu jahal????
abu jahal was killed during the battle of badr....
please check ur history again....

what wud u pray for after the person is dead????
u cant pray for Allah to forgive them....
that is forbidden....
and i dont think any other prayer makes sense....

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I dunno how this one can properly be interpreted. May be some one knowledgeable can come up and present the correct view on it :jazak:

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9:113 It is not (proper) for the Prophet and those who believe to ask Allah’s Forgiveness for the Mushrikun even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are the dwellers of the Fire.**

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i thought it was abu jahal, im sorry my mistake…i know there was someone

suroor-:flower1:

aq bhai :bummer:

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Sid: one case I know of is Abu Taalib

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nothing wrong in condolence, you can offer you support to grieved family, share your good memories and stuff…

As for prayers, it is mostly useless even for dead muslim(though some believe otherwise )

Generally a person will be treated in hereafter, according to his own personal Beliefs and Aamaal(actions).

So one should concentrate on personal development and be good to others :k:

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^
prayers r not useless for dead muslims....
otherwise the namaz-e-janazah thing was meaningless....

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Hmm, children are muslims arnt they ? Regardless of their parents religion. until they reach maturity that is.

Would that not allow us to pray for a "non-muslim" child if he / she was not mature yet before he died ?

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I have attended memorial services of non muslim freinds, i will always send the family cards or letters if appropriate, and I tell the family I will remmber them in my prayers.

A muslim aught to be known by his/her manners, the above is just good manners.

I belive it is a hadees that if u see a funeral procession going past u should stand up and acknowledge it, regardless of who it is because it should remind of us of our own death.

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This is unbelievable. I am actually flabbergasted. Even after readng so many myopic reliious views on this site. This one sadly takes the case. :(

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matty-you're looking at this wrong, and i knew you'd be the first person to ask about it-and if you've read any of my other posts in religion you'd know how i feel about most things

sometimes, dear, try not to jump to such a harsh conclusion

im not asking if we can feel sorry or offer condolences, what i'm asking about is proper procedures-for example the praying, and the funeral rites, etc

i doubt any jewish, christian, hindi, etc religion-basically anyone that closely follows any organized religion, wants another religions burial rites, etc for their own- for example, the boy who passed away was from a strict Greek Orthodox family. Thus they held funeral services and prayers as they felt best, and then buried him elsewhere in a special monestary

i also ask, b/c in islam you are not supposed to mourn-and correct me if i'm wrong-but even a parent for more than 3 days and a spouse for, i believe 40 days??
-i don't know if this is true, but i've heard that the more you mourn them, the more uncomfortable their grave becomes-instead you are supposed to continue praying for them

so i was wondering if there was anything specific said about the mourning of non-muslims

frankly, i have close friends of many different races and religions and i would be devestated if i lost any of them

when death occurs, people need someone or something to turn to-and in many cases that someone is God and that something is religion

and most religions have some kind of manner, some kind of protocol in dealing with death-for a muslim there are certain mourning periods and the Janazzah prayer, etc ec

aq bhai- no, abu taalib was different...i really thought there was someone else, and that the prophet buried him in the islamic manner and was told to do it differently-and that he was an enemy of Islam....i may be totally off, so if anyone knows, please tell

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phew 714, thank God u posted ur explanation, I was begining to worry for the whole of humanity.
Is the person u r referring to abu Lahab, it wasn't the case that he was non muslim that was the issue but he literally was the an enemy and an evil person. His wife celebrated the death of Hazrat Hamza in a most grotesque manner.

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serendipiti :) i knew it might come across as odd, but i wasn't sure exactly how to say it-but i never meant it to be like "lets disdain all non-muslims" or something...esp if you knew me in RL :)

as for Abu Lahab-ewwwwwwwww no, he waas vile and evil, as was his wife...the lady, Hind, that had him killed converted to islam though later did she not?

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well, i am not even muslim, but i go to funerals, and offer my prayers with other muslims :)

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