Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

It’s time indians stopped attempting to hold dominance over pakistan. many indians are deluded and behave as if they own the whole of south asia. this condescending attitude will never be accepted by Pakistanis.
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Hello:

I have had enough with listening to the crap of my Indian neighbors who still are hungover by the 1947 partition. Every Indian that i came across over the years in real life or through social media had views that the partition was unjust & hence should be reversed.

I heard , the rhetoric being beaten up by Indians on international media over and over again - something like - “we are one people” -“partition was stupid”-“If east and west Germany can Unify why not Pakistan and India” - “Unification is the only way to peace”.

I want to make it clear that our previous generations might have been a bit confused about the partition , but the generation we raised in the 80s are black blooded Pakistanis. We surely have no confusion about our identity.Many of us today realize the reason for the creation of Pakistan.

Regardless of how much the “Two Nation Theory” is ridiculed by the Indians which is quite natural and understandable & by some naive , short sighted Pakistanis , it does provide a concrete basic of division between Indo Pak.

Looking at the plight of Indian Muslims -regardless of what some apparently Muslim members say- , its confirmed that how Muslims would have been treated if there was no partition. Indians must come to terms with the fact that we are NOT one people , we are different in our way of life , culture , beliefs , dresses , events , language , literature , history , customs , arts , music , food and what not - you name it.

One example is the beef issue , Hindus don’t eat beef because its holy to them. We Muslims even cook & love eating its bones. Some Hindus drink its urine where as a single drop of cow urine on Muslim’s body or clothes requires a complete Ghusl.Some Hindus don’t drink its milk - Muslims have it in their daily diet. Regardless of some of you might say about how “small” this issue is but the fact is that you already have a fault line on a issue as small as dietary , let alone the rest of the affairs.

Since 1947, we have fought 3 brutal wars which have resulted in 1000s dying on each side, we followed the nuclear path, and currently are stranded in a stalemate of 4th generation proxy warfare, supporting useful idiots in each others countries.Isn’t that an evidence of how ridiculous, the theory of “coexistence” really is?. Pakistanis, are happy with their current situation, regardless of how crippling it might be, we face and bounce back stronger in the face of adversary. So , Pakistan doesn’t need a unification - get it straight. If the unification is important than the best option for Pakistan is to form a union either state or strategic with Afghanistan.

In the end , i would like to suggest to my Indian folks - we are TWO VERY DIFFERENT NATIONS- Get over it , live & let live , we are not west Germany nor you are East Germany , we were NEVER meant to live as one country, please try to focus on your own issues & fix your own problems. We Pakistanis, have, are and will resist ANY & ALL forms and attempts of Indian hegemony in our region. Our freedom from India was bloody & costly, we will maintain it at all costs.

Majority Pakistanis desire, good & working relationship with India & don’t hold hatred towards a normal indian on the street, good relations doesn’t mean we will let our hard earned freedom be taken over by India, just because its big. So those who think that so called unification is a possibility & those who propagate it on the international scale both Indians and Pakistanis & get this message clear and straight. “Respect our sovereignty & We will respect yours”, there is NO 2nd thought on that.

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

Hindus don’t drink milk? Since when?

Every Indian you’ve come across wanted to reverse partition?

:rolleyes:

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

Difficult to read with underline and italics.

I thought promotion of other discussion boards was not allowed here.

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

^Half of it is made up anyway..

Hindus not drinking milk lol.. I seriously doubt that guy has ever met a ‘real-life’ Hindu or Indian..

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

If they are vegans, they wont drink mill.

And the generalization is silly, right? Just like saying (let’s say): all pakistanis are idiots.
Except for that the generalization made here is not or less insulting.

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

^A very tiny minority might choose not to drink milk but Hinduism doesn’t teach or require it (like a tiny minority of Muslim women in KSA cover their faces even at home even tho Islam obviously doesn’t teach or require it.. you’ll always find examples of people on the fringe)..

Jains don’t drink milk.. OP seems to have muddled them up with Hindus..

Some of the replies in that thread :confused:

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

Btw, the article says SOME hindus don’t drink milk.

And the replies in that thread, I don’t know man, It’s freedom of speech. Whether we like it or not.

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

You must run in a very narrow circle to make all these generalizations. Most Indians that I have met really don’t care about such things.

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

Wow. Just wow.

I am offended on the behalf of beautiful open minded Indian friends I have.

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

To the posters above: if someone speaks in a generalized manner, you dont always have to take it personal. Its become overly unbearable to turn a simple discussion into a “how dare they generalize” and followed by danda’s !

To the OP :
Most Indians I have met, seem to be generally nice people. Though I admit there is this particular section amongst them that does believe that Pakistan shouldnt have been created but their numbers are minute. I cant say what muslims in India feel like coz I have never been there , two indian muslims did suggest that they do often fear hindu muslim riots , but I feel I cant see that feeling shared amongst the majority of indian muslims

As a Pakistani, I feel, there is a certain class amongst us as well that have very extremist feelings regards India-Pakistan separation so we cant blame india alone on this

Some of my best friends are Indians and currently living in India. I always found them to be very helpful and respectful. We even used to discuss Kashmir and ended up disagreeing on aspects and history of what really happened. I was told and I truly believe now, ,media on both sides is the bigger culprit not the people on both sides. Media and politicians from both sides wont let the two countries live in peace

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

I don’t think anyone has taken it overly personal, but when generalizations are mean spirited and racist, then yes, disgust will follow.

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

No, one would not be required to do a full ghusl if cow urine (or any urine) were to touch their body or clothes. They’d be required to cleanse that particular region but would not require a full ghusl for it.

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

True. But that is one of the downsides of the internet: freepass for crazies to spit their venom.

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

With due respect, those acting like the moral police are no less spitting venom, only difference is that they think they can get away with it

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

I didn’t take it personally :slight_smile:

I just thought that the OP has a narrow circle of Indians that he/she knows to think that way.

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

Thanks Partyslims, I could almost see the mob coming and bashing the OP left right and centre with hateful comments when all that is needed to do is to let the OP know that not all Pakistani’s feel that way and that they ( the OP ) have clear misconceptions against the Indians.

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

Let me fire the first flair of war here :smiley:

All Pakistanis are like West Germany to us :smiley:

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

Who do you work for? Media or a Politician? :faizy:

Re: Dear Indians | We are NOT west Germany - Every Pakistani should read

I don’t think any one was ‘ganging up’ against anyone here.

The OP made some men spirited remarks and any normal person would be offended by them knowing we have Indian friends. Just cause we’re Pakistani doesn’t mean we have to be okay with whatever one Pakistani feels about a religion/country on an individual level. Talking about it and expressing your take isn’t mob mentality. :confused: