Well, dearly, since you have started reposting your posts that contain objectionable phrases and word despite my editting them, I have kind of, sort of, decided to close all your new threads and your new post untill you cool down a bit and come back to your normal self. I don’t may its because I have too much time on hand… Allah knows better.
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Originally posted by Roman:
Well, dearly, since you have started reposting your posts that contain objectionable phrases and word despite my editting them, I have kind of, sort of, decided to close all your new threads and your new post untill you cool down a bit and come back to your normal self. I don't may its because I have too much time on hand... Allah knows better.
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Close this down to *$$hole Kafir:
1)BB: Do you reject that during the Prophet’s (pbuh) life time, the Quran was never compiled into one volume, instead the Koran was written down on paper, on skin, on the branches of palm trees, on thin stone, on shoulders and side bones of animals and, mostly retained in memories of Prophets close friends (Sahaba)?
** The revelation period is 23 years. Noble Quran was preserved in the lifetime of Prophet Muhammed(SAW) after revelation was complete. Preservation secured in multiple forms and manners including what you mentioned.**
Not only were the Koranic writings disorganized, but there were seven different versions of them. Prophet Muhammad said in the Hadith: The Koran has been revealed to be recited in seven different ways, so recite of it that which is easier for you (Sahih-al-Bukhari, Vol. 6, page 510).
** Noble Quran is devine, Ahadeeth are not divine. Keep this in mind.**
2)BB: Do you reject that the collection of the Koran into a single volume was something Prophet Muhammad did not do or authorize?
** There is evidence that it was done in the life time of Prophet Muhammed. There is no proof of what you are talking about?**
It was Caliph Omer who, after much discussion, persuaded Abu-Bakr to order the collection of the Koran. Hazrat Abu-Bakr ordered Zaid Ibn Sabit to do the job( reference:Al-Mush Al-Shareef, page 59,60).
** It does not prove anything. You are purposely mixing apples and oranges here.**
Zaid Ibn Sabit agreed to collect the various pieces of the Koran. However, when Islam became the religion of many countries, every country used the version of the Koran which was known among them: the Syrians read AbiKaab’s version, the people of Kofa read Abdallah Ibn Massoud’s version, others read Abu Moussa Alashaby’s version and so on.
** Again you are mixing apples and oranges and twisting facts to fit in your agenda.**
3)BB: Do you reject that when Caliph Usman took the caliphate, he was confronted by such confusion and sedition concerning the reading of the Koran in the different Islamic countries that he ordered it to be rewritten?
** Non-sense and it is not true account.**
Usman ordered Zaid Ibn Sabit and three other men form Quraysh, Abdullah Ibn Al-Zubeer,Saeed Ibn El-Uss, and Abdelrahman Ibn Al-Harith Ibn Hesham, to rewrite the Koran.
** You are very selective to poison the issue by using the word re-write. Before press was invented, everything was re-written over and over again. Depends on its demand.**
It was Caliph Usman’s order to the scribes: " If you disagree with Zaid Ibn Sabit in anything of the Koran,write it in the language of Quraysh, because the Koran was revealed in the language of Quraysh." They did. (Al-Mushaf Al-Shareef, Pages 66,70).
** Not true again same deceptive tactics are used by you.**
4)BB: Do you reject that after Caliph Usman completed 'his Koran' he forced all the Islamic countries to have one Koran - and banned all other codices?
** Damn lie and twisted account of events.**
He finished the matter by BURNING all other codices of the Koran. When Hazrat Usman banned whichever he banned from the Koran, and burned whichever he burned of it, he banned passages Allah has revealed and burned parts of the Koran which were given to the Muslims by the messenger of Allah.
** Again, you are using deception, lies and misrepresenting the facts.**
He appointed a small group of the Sahaba (close friends of Prophet) to rewrite the Koran and left out those who heard the prophet and memorized what he said. This is why Ibn Massoud was angry, because he was one of the best men who memorized the Koran. He said that he took from the mouth of the prophet seventy suras of the Koran while Zaid Ibn Sabit was yet a young lad.
{b] Already answered above. You Shia bastard is implying that Quran was changed. A lie.**
5)BB: Do you reject that when Ibn Massoud objected to the burning of the other codices of the Koran, Uthman took him out of the mosque with violence, and struck him to the ground, and broke one of his ribs? (REFERENCE: The Great Sedition, pages 160,161,181,182 written by Dr. Taha Hussein , a well known author, college professor, and minister of education in Egypt.
** Bullshit.**
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CONCLUSION: It is very clear that much of the original Koran was burned, while other parts were rewritten.
** SO WHY A REWRITTEN AND CHANGED QURAN ACCORDING TO YOUR LIOES AND DECEPTION IS A PERFECT BOOK? CARE TO EXPLAIN THAT?
How can we reconcile these historical facts with the following words of the Koran?
** WHAT WE CRAP IS ALL ABOUT? SINCE WHEN YOU ARE ONE OF US?**
Nay, this is a Glorious Koran [inscribed] in a Tablet preserved (Sarat Al-Buru 85:21,22).
That this is indeed a Koran most honorable in a book well guarded ( Sarat Al-Waqiah 56:77,78).
If the Koran was inscribed in “a tablet preserved,” and in “a book well-guarded,” why was it necessary for Caliph Usman to rewrite the Koran?
{b} Listen birbbrain, you all don’t like first three Caliphs, you have proved that again. So what you are telling us? What is your point?**
How could he burn the other codices? Why were there other codices in the first place?
** These are complexed and delicate issues. You brain is not equipped to handle them. Find some other hobby.**
These are very serious questions regarding a book said to be God’s word.
** Not to me and i.5 billion Muslims. Talk to CNN they might interview you.**
Again, Bubble kindly not waste time blaming all who question as anti-Islam or, quoting from texts which have no relevance to the subject matter.
** Let me tell you why? Because a Muslim know that you are lying and will never question like that. If you are Muslim tell me the forms of Kufr? WE have posted here.A Muslim does explore facts without compromising his/her IMAAN.**
*$$hole you have not answered my question that what was wrong and which word you have problem MF?
Ghazi
Facts Are The Authority!
Main uloo ka patha hoo. Some one KICK my ass!
Roman Rundi Ki Aulad, you wrote that and posted in my name, using my password.
Listen motherf****r Roman stop this. You son of a b*tch has only access to my password. No one else can do it except you motherfucker Roman.
Ghazi
Facts Are The Authority!
[This message has been edited by Ghazi (edited April 06, 2000).]
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Originally posted by Ghazi:
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Main uloo ka patha hoo. Some one KICK my ass!
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hehehehhe, isss ka dimagh poori tarah phir gaya hai :)
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Originally posted by Ghazi:
Listen motherf**r Roman stop this. you motherfucker Roman.
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Roman, is that true, aap kay kiya iss shaqs ki validah say Najaiz Talluqaat thay? Bohat sharam ki baat hai, Uss ka ghussa hona bilkul theek hai...aap ko apni umr ki koi naheen mili thee? chee cheee, shame shame..
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Originally posted by X Factor:
** Roman, is that true, aap kay kiya iss shaqs ki validah say Najaiz Talluqaat thay? Bohat sharam ki baat hai, Uss ka ghussa hona bilkul theek hai...aap ko apni umr ki koi naheen mili thee? chee cheee, shame shame..
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X Factor aka Roman the motherf*r moderator. You MFSOB are a coward. I can * you all the time.
Ghazi
Facts Are The Authority!
abay...dont call me Roman..Yuck...
Roman yahan kal ka baccha hai :)
aur janab aap ki tareef, aaap say humara poori tarah ta-Arruf naheen hua hai...
aap kaffi naraz nazaar aa rahay hain.
Ghussa karna acchi baat naheen hai, bad for mental and cardiac health.
W'salam.
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Originally posted by Ghazi:
**Main uloo ka patha hoo. Some one KICK my ass!
Roman Rundi Ki Aulad, you wrote that and posted in my name, using my password.
Listen motherf****r Roman stop this. You son of a b*tch has only access to my password. No one else can do it except you motherfucker Roman.
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O Dear, you are so naughty. I'm so amused and charmed... if I can just nip on your fanny a lil. heeheheh
Roman,
These people are not normal.
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Originally posted by 2PaK:
Roman,
These people are not normal.
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yep, they forget the words like husn-e-iqlaakh and to lead by example.
On one hand they can cut and paste a whole text about an issue on the other hand they can call people bad names and show their real intellect and lack of decent upbringing.
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Originally posted by 2PaK:
Roman,
These people are not normal.
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Why don't you use your last name Shakoor?
Ghazi
Facts Are The Authority!