Here’s some interesting data on interracial dating in different asian american communities, this only includes US-born Asians so isn’t entirely represenative.
About 65% of Paki american men and women married other pakis and about 13% of Paki women married white guys compared to 12% of Pakistani guys marrying white girls. Fortunately there isn’t a white marrying pandemic among brown women unlike for east asians women who overwhelmingly marry white men. Interestingly the data shows more Pakistani men marry blacks and hispanics than paki women, does that mean we’re less color obsessed? The data doesn’t correlate with my real life experience, like I’ve seen more Pakistani men married to white women, more half paki half white people that had a paki dad than the other way around. I’ve also seen more paki women married to black muslims, but maybe all these of people were born outside America so the data doesn’t reflect that. What do you guys make of this? Do you think we’ll see more brown women going the way of asian women and marry exclusively white men cause of status and appearance? Especially as the community becomes less muslim every passing generation?
Anyways, I couldn’t find a legitimate source for this graph.
If they are indeed accurate, then it is safe to say that both Pakistani men and women’s rates of interfaith and interracial marriage will most likely increase later on.
[USER=“279321”]third string[/USER] Let me guess, the sub is r/aznidentity? r/aznmasculinity? r/braincels?
Anyways, the only valid thing to come from this panic over whitey taking away the ethnic wimminz is that some of these white dudes are a bunch of racists who will potentially be fathers to mixed-race children. Otherwise, I don’t really care. Most people marry people that are like them. A lot of the interfaith and interreligious marriages are between people who are probably in the same economic group. White yuppies marrying Asian yuppies.
unless you grew up blue collar or super rich, the majority of Americans - especially whites and asians are just regular middle class people (including the upper middle class). This isn’t India or Brazil where the class disparities are soo stark lmaoo.
unless you grew up blue collar or super rich, the majority of Americans - especially whites and asians are just regular middle class people (including the upper middle class). This isn’t India or Brazil where the class disparities are soo stark lmaoo.
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Who said they were though? I pointed out two people from the same class marrying each other, because that is what is most likely to happen. Cinderella stories where lower-class people marry up are exceptions and not the rule. Middle class people generally associate with other middle class people. Lower class people generally associate with other lower class people. Yuppies with other yuppies. That doesn’t mean that it is impossible for people to form relationships across class lines, but it doesn’t happen nearly as much as people associating with others in their class.
lmfaoo what does class have to do with this thread or inter ethnic marriage? The data is about inter ethnic marriages, most whites and asians are in the income brackets but the intermarriage isn’t neccesarily because of class similarities a lot of it is because of self-hate, fetishization, racism, and even upward mobility (hypergamy/whites men being the dominant race). If class was a factor, white men wouldn’t be marrying poor women from southeast Asia in such large numbers or getting Russian mailorder brides lmao. Anyways you miss the point of this thread as usual lol.
I really don’t care, paki girls aren’t even all that. Fortunately us paki guys don’t have it as bad as east asians when it comes to the docile/unmanly stereotype but that doesn’t mean I should support my asian/brown bros against white supremacy and self-hating asian/desi girls who desire white features over their own and slut it up for white guys cause some like being fetishized.
lmfaoo what does class have to do with this thread or inter ethnic marriage? The data is about inter ethnic marriages, most whites and asians are in the income brackets but the intermarriage isn’t neccesarily because of class similarities a lot of it is because of self-hate, fetishization, racism, and even upward mobility (hypergamy/whites men being the dominant race). If class was a factor, white men wouldn’t be marrying poor women from southeast Asia in such large numbers or getting Russian mailorder brides lmao. Anyways you miss the point of this thread as usual lol.
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Buddy boy, I brought up “class” because we were discussing Pakistani women potentially potentially marrying cracker sahibs “en masse” with you using East Asian-American as a possible “what if” scenario. Mail-order brides are a separate issue where undesirable white men go to Ukraine or Thailand to find poor women in desperate situations. Stay on topic teesra string. It’s not that there aren’t some desperate Asian chicks getting with the first white dude they see (where the white dude wants an irl anime waifu) just that it is retarded as f*ck to act like Susie Wong from Kansas who lives in suburbia is getting with Bradley because she hates herself and not because of proximity.
that’s a lame excuse, most asian women live in close proximity to other asian men. The reasons why a disproportionate number of them marry white is because of self-hate, upward mobility/being seeing with a white man is “high status” and makes them feel more accepted in western society. Watch videos on what some asian women say when they’re asked why they have “no-asians dating policy” even on apps like tinder. Many say that asian men remind them of their "brothers’ lmao (as if any other race says that about their opposite sex cohorts) even if the two people are say korean and vietnamese. Then you got some women saying they hate their eyes, flat nose and "large face’, apparently having a “smol face” and large eyes is a big deal in east asian culture.
I really don’t care, paki girls aren’t even all that. Fortunately us paki guys don’t have it as bad as east asians when it comes to the docile/unmanly stereotype but that doesn’t mean I should support my asian/brown bros against white supremacy and self-hating asian/desi girls who desire white features over their own and slut it up for white guys cause some like being fetishized.
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Thanks for supporting the real social justice issue of our times.
There is at least some evidence supporting what [USER=“279321”]third string[/USER] is saying. Some Paki women do look out for white men, giving similar sorts of reasons e.g desi men are more repressive, possessive, conservative, cant escape from cultural expectations from family, judgmental etc etc. I am sure social status, finances, jobs, perceived physical attributes e.g strength, looks etc should also play a part.
On the flip side, many white women are preferably marrying black or indian men, for their own unique reasons.
And white men marrying east asians/chinese/phillipos etc for loyalty, subservience etc
So this trend is not exclusive to just desi or Paki women but more of a global phenomenon, we are increasingly and progressively becoming more open-minded and liberal, constantly testing our social and cultural boundaries and experiencing new things, which I don’t think should cause any alarm bells ringing or generate apprehensions in any community.
I have primarily dated white girls and don’t think any of the white dudes will have any problem with that.
that’s a lame excuse, most asian women live in close proximity to other asian men. The reasons why a disproportionate number of them marry white is because of self-hate, upward mobility/being seeing with a white man is “high status” and makes them feel more accepted in western society. Watch videos on what some asian women say when they’re asked why they have “no-asians dating policy” even on apps like tinder. Many say that asian men remind them of their "brothers’ lmao (as if any other race says that about their opposite sex cohorts) even if the two people are say korean and vietnamese. Then you got some women saying they hate their eyes, flat nose and "large face’, apparently having a “smol face” and large eyes is a big deal in east asian culture.
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They don’t live in close proximity if they grow up in a majority-white area! Anyways, the stats even show that Asian men clearly want some Becky as well since in most ethnic groups from the stats you provided (assuming they are true) the males of their ethnic group aren’t exactly all that far behind their female counterparts (where the only gigantic disparity is Laotian females followed by Cambodians). The only real issue in this is the “self hate” since people of color like to uphold eurocentric features. But dating is where you can be as exclusionary as possible. That’s life, no matter how retarded someone looks excluding their own people. If Abdul wants to date Beckies, that is his prerogative.
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majority white areas also have cluster of minorities especially asians, even if you live in a white maj. town don’t mean the other nearby towns in your metropolitan area don’t have a crapton of races. Also people don’t usually marry people they grew up with, most asians go off to college which tend to be really diverse and liberal so only dating whites makes no sense. Also a lot of these self-haters have a “no-Asians” policy on tinder and other dating apps.
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majority white areas also have cluster of minorities especially asians, even if you live in a white maj. town don’t mean the other nearby towns in your metropolitan area don’t have a crapton of races. Also people don’t usually marry people they grew up with, most asians go off to college which tend to be really diverse and liberal so only dating whites makes no sense. Also a lot of these self-haters have a “no-Asians” policy on tinder and other dating apps.
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I think you have a sort of tunnel vision on this topic since you’re admittedly from a super diverse city. Before going to college, there were practically no brown people in the bum**** town I lived in and the sooper diverse areas were a significant distance away. It’s only when I got to a “super diverse metropolitan area” that I got to see the tiny enclaves of brown people in AR. But let’s drop this issue all together because the real gripe your brothers over at r/hapas have is with (openly) self-hating Asian American women who pander to crackers. This specific issue is a larger part of the self-hate that people of color engage in. Our own community shuns darker-skinned people. Black people, Asian people, and non-white Latinos have similar colorism issues.
Is self-hate (whether it be hating your ethnic features or darker skin color or hating on your people in front of whites) bad? Yes. However, this guilt-trippy “activism” is going to produce nothing. The people with serious self-hate issues developed those issues because the “white is right” mentality is everywhere. The only way to counteract this is to push for positive representation of people of color to offset the “White is right” nonsense to positively influence the next generations.
Self haters are retarded, but they have a right to their preference. It is what it is. I’m not going to cry oppression because some Pakistani guy dates Beckies because he thinks Pakistani girls are she-beasts. That mentality is his problem to deal with. Trying to convert him back to biryani is not going to do anything.
