Darbaar (Shah Vs Sufi)

muqawwee123 · April 8, 2014, 6:59pm

What is the origin of word Darbaar?

Isn’t it strange that both king’s court and Sufi shrines have been referred with this same term?

Sufis always tried to avoid being part of darbari and darbari, but in the process they end up developing Darbars for themselves.

mahool · April 8, 2014, 7:09pm

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Court of Akbar?

muqawwee123 · April 8, 2014, 7:17pm

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yes like Mughliya Darbaar.

mahool · April 8, 2014, 7:23pm

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Shah Wali Ullah ka qissa pata hai?

muqawwee123 · April 8, 2014, 7:23pm

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which one?

mahool · April 8, 2014, 7:25pm

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He visited the Darbar of King… since then King became his Moreed… :hmmm:

muqawwee123 · April 8, 2014, 7:27pm

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explain in words. can’t see youtube video? which king?

mahool · April 8, 2014, 7:30pm

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I forgot whole lecture, I listen it long time ago.

KKF · April 8, 2014, 7:45pm

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Darbar is a place where the King presides and his subjects gather around him.

vohii maaHaul qabroN par bhii pesh kiyaa jaataa hai jahaN saaHib e qabr ke chaaroN taraf mo'taqideen kaa ek jamm-e-Ghafeer [jhurmuT] hotaa hai.

bas farq yeh hai k:

shaahii darbaar meN juz baadshaah salaamat kisii ko ijaazat e takallum nahiiN hotii magar Khaanqaahii darbaar meN saaHib e qabr ke 'ilaava sabhii ko shor sharaaba aur Ghair Islami aur Ghair moHazzab Harakaat o sakaanaat o takallumaat kii faraavaanii hotii hai.

mahool · April 8, 2014, 7:47pm

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Khanqah darbar nahi hoti… at least Hakeem Akhtar ki to nahi…

Ali_Syed · April 9, 2014, 11:17am

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Good observation. The sufi's were against the kind of honour their followers started bestowing them after their deaths.

Ali_Syed · April 9, 2014, 11:18am

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hakeem akhtar koun hay?

muqawwee123 · April 9, 2014, 12:18pm

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Biography - Hazrat Maulana Shah Hakeem Muhammad Akhtar Saheb (Rahmatullah-e-Alayh) | Khanqah Imdadia Ashrafia

muqawwee123 · April 9, 2014, 12:19pm

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Normally its Dargah... but the word Darbar and Darbar e aaliya has been written on many shrines.

the_kaur · April 10, 2014, 4:26pm

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What will be hindi equivalent of Darbar?

muqawwee123 · April 10, 2014, 4:28pm

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Isn't it already used in Hindi like Darbar Sahib?