how successful has it been in the minds of:
a) its target audience in the west?
b) decision makers in pakistan?
c) pakistani public?
d) overall performance
or has it failed?
Very very effective
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India had won the propaganda war even before the first shots were fired in Mumbai.
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its so strong that even a die hard Pakistani sometime start to think otherwise (what indians want the world to think) against the reality. Its successfully following the US line of action.
Pakistani media, lobby, its leadeship failed to do so and counter this indian strategy.
they need to come all out, they shouldnt miss any single oppertunity to use against goody good india!
Lots and lots of noise, just sit tight and go by their track record.
how successful has it been in the minds of: a) its target audience in the west? b) decision makers in pakistan? c) pakistani public? d) overall performance
or has it failed?
A policy of reaction never wins a psychological warfare, perception of mutual adversary among the nations serves as a linchpin to mold public opinion in favor or against a state or an ideology using propaganda of stereotyping. Unfortunately Pakistan's ideological and geographical position is perceived as a stumbling block against the grand chess board of political and ideological hegemony.
West is politically united with a monomaniac view on the situation so there is a little space for us to bend it in our favor even with a behavior of a satellite nation to our adversaries.
There is hardly any decision making process in Pakistan, we have a habit to react in haste against any local and global event that has direct or indirect relation to Pakistan, Pakistani public is purposely kept divided among themselves by their opinion leaders. It is a win-win situation for anyone to twist our arm as a state and ask us to do what is not in our interest.
^I believe that its in the interest of Pakistan that they hunt down the terrorist.
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CNN, BBC,ABC,FOX,CBS,CNBC etc. all are showing indian view point...
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^^ because its true!!! Its obviously exaggerated by the indian media..the indian govts reaction is not perfect (make it clear that ur not blaming the paki govt itself but the groups based in pak) ...but all of it is backed by actual evidence and investigations... FBI and Scotland Yard are there (or going there soon) too so its the obvious truth..if u look at the findings evthing adds up.. except to some people hwo just don't want to admit it and are still in denial... and are just circulating some video of a joker spreading conspiracy theories and coming up with random "why dint this happen" "why ditn that happen" questions to prove his senseless theory
how successful has it been in the minds of: a) its target audience in the west? b) decision makers in pakistan? c) pakistani public? d) overall performance
or has it failed?
I am not sure about the minds of Pakistani public, but it has been very successful in getting India's message across. Whether correct or not, there is now a perception across the globe that elements in Pakistan are involved. Despite Indian PM's statement (whilst the attacks were still going on) that Pakistan is involved, it was not effectively challenged by Pakistani leadership. Pakistani leadership has been on the back foot from the moment the tragic events started to unfold in Mumbai.
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There is an assumption here that no Pakistanis are involved or can be involved. My hunch is that this attack could very well be carried out by Indian Muslims to avenge for Gujrat massacres. But there is a good chance that Pakistani jihadi groups may have helped them train.
When we let jihadis roam freely within our land and then most of our denials are proven false, can we expect any credibility?
How many times after 9/11 our leaders denied any Al Qaeda or Taliban presence in Pakistan? How many times we denied that Pakistani jihadis are active? We deny that there are "training camps" but we claim credit when we bomb them. We deny Al Qaeda presence but we claim credit and glory when we catch them from even our cities. We deny that Taliban are there but we blame them for killing our leaders or attacking our hotels.
Is it any wonder we cannot convince anyone of our "purity'"?
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The damage is not due to any sustained propoganda but due to the actions of the pakistani people who like to take pride in the unscruplous activities of their biggest institutioin , the army , when it has any perceived 'success' ; but throw it to the wolves as soon as its rogue activities are exposed or it faces humiliation as seen during 71 and kargil.
pakistanis are a sad people who have no success in any other field so have invested all their dreams in their armed forces.
well in my point of view u cannot say that india had won and it has become successful in doing propaganda against Pakistan. becoz the non muslims have always been seeking for doing propaganda against Pakistan and to destabilize it for many decades from its independence back to 1947.
so, india had not won this match, but all non muslim community infact has won.
The damage is not due to any sustained propoganda but due to the actions of the pakistani people who like to take pride in the unscruplous activities of their biggest institutioin , the army , when it has any perceived 'success' ; but throw it to the wolves as soon as its rogue activities are exposed or it faces humiliation as seen during 71 and kargil. pakistanis are a sad people who have no success in any other field so have invested all their dreams in their armed forces.
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I am glade you think this way. It makes us think that mind battle with India
is already won. Pakistan don't need any Propaganda or Israeli training., See how great its working without it ?
I say things will be more clear when '1st strike' takes place, all my Pakistani Circle here in Markham are ready and actually looking forward to it.
PAF will have some good 'Fatty Targets in the Indian Ocean.
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I can tell you why Western countries are with India and not Pakistan
When Asab, the lone terrorist, survivor was caught India went to UNSC to impose a ban on JuD. Pak agreed for full support and next day your PM said the JuD's chief is under seize. From that time onwards there were garbled messages about the seize of JuD's chief. Same is the case with identity of Asab. His father claims he is my son but your govt. says give proof. First Nawaj Sharif vindicated this statement but later ate his own words. You people have been offering help since late 80s and we have seen the result (especially after attack on our Parliament and assertion to act by your the then Miltary Chief cum Dictator). You people close your eyes and ask for proof!
Above all Scotland Yard and FBI are the most foolish organizations which are credible enough to believe on the evidences which Pakistan has been shunning from Day-1!
I can tell you something to Pakis out here who love war - India didn't go for the military answer just because of your nuclear arsenal, all other things are excuses. Don't ever ever hand trust Americans with your Nuclear bombs!(I guess you are smart enough to understand what I mean)