Dajjal (Anti-Christ), Jesus and Revival of Islam

Since quite a few of you showed interest in knowing who Dajjal is and how Promised Messiah(AS) will slay him, I thought I’ll post some different interpretations:

**Non-Ahmadi Muslims’ Concept **
In all fairness to our opponents, I shall now endeavour to elucidate the view point of our opponents who equate Islam’s renaissance with its economic and political dominance. There is perhaps an explanation for it. Lust for power and greed for gold have traditionally dominated human strife. The acme of national revival therefore would mean political and economic ascendency. Divine favour would, according to them, fittingly manifest itself to bring about this result. This more or less, i~ the view held by many, concerning the revival of Islam. According to this belief, the advent of the Messiah will herald the era of Islam’s political conquests while the appearance of the Imam Mahdi will bring about their economic dominance.

First, I shall outline their concept of the Messiah’s advent. They believe that the very Jesus, Son of Mary, whom the Ouran declares a prophet of the Israelites, will descend bodily from the sky. He will immediately set out with sword in hand and hack to death all enemies of Islam! His global sweep shall have three grand objective;. The first objective will be the destruction of the Cross. Not figuratively, but literally! He will set about destroying the symbol of Christian faith with such vigour that not a trace shall be left of it. There will not remain a single Cross to be seen-in Church or home or around any neck.

According to them, his next important task will be the extermination of swine of every variety-domestic as well as wild! So, the followers of the Cross will then be left with neither a Cross for prayer nor a pig far dinner. Thus, Christ will deprive the Christians of the articles not only of their spiritual sustenance but also of their physical nourishment.

The third task for the Messiah will be the killing of “Dajjal” the Antichrist. Now who is this Antichrist? According to Traditions, if taken literally, as some would have it, he will be a one-eyed Colossus who will come riding an ass of extraordinary proportions. He will be so tall that his head will stand higher than the clouds. All prophets have warned their followers against the evil of this Antichrist. Now, while the Antichrist is busy ravaging the earth the Messiah will descend from the heavens. He will engage the Antichrist in battle near Damascus and slay him. He will then conquer the entire world. Having done this, he will hand over its governance to the Muslims.

This, in sum, is their philosophy of the Muslims’ political resurgence and ascendancy. It absolves the Muslims totally from waging any political struggle whatsoever. Now, those who are basking in the assurance that they will inherit the earth without moving a muscle can see no possible reason to concern themselves with political thought and action. They live in blissful oblivion of their decay and degradation. For, everything else apart, they know most assuredly that the happy hour is not far when a divine being will descend from the heavens and unleash a campaign of conquests. He will slay the swine. He will wreck the Cross. He will subjugate all Powers of the East and the West. Then, he will beckon to the waiting Muslim masses and say, “Come hither, ye soldiers of God; come here, O virtuous ones! Come and take this sceptre of the kingdom of the earth.” This is the bellicose view of Muslim renaissance which the Ahmadi Muslims find abhorrent. They simply cannot subscribe to it in its crude literalism.

Next comes the non-Ahmadi Muslims’ concept of the economic resurgence of Islam. The scholars of the other sects hold the view that the remedy of the economic plight of the Muslims lay not in struggle and sacrifice but in the appearance of the Imam Mahdi. This Imam Mahdi will be a contemporary of the Messiah. His most important act on arrival will be the distribution of limitless largess among the Muslims of the world. His bounty will be boundless; his generosity will defy description. This overwhelming wealth will far exceed the Muslim’s capacity to garner it. Thus will come to an end all lust for goods and greed for gold. This is the panacea, as conceived by some, for the economic ills of the world of Islam. According to this belief, the appearance of Imam Mahdi is in itself the answer to the economic misery of Muslims. There is no need for sweat, tears and toil. There is no necessity to explore the earth’s treasures, to peep into the heart of the atom and to seek out the secrets of space. Neither effort nor industry, nor inventiveness or application is needed. All that is needed is the arrival of the Mahdi. Again we differ and again we the Ahmadi Muslims find this concept childish, crude and unacceptable.

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*The Correct Interpretation According to Ahmadi Muslims *

Although the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community does not in any way reject the prophecies concerning the descent of the Messiah and the appearance of the Mahdi, it does emphasise that to put a literal meaning on them is the height of naivette and ignorance. We believe that it is as a result of not grasping fully the exalted station of the Holy Prophet that such a serious error is made in understanding his deep and philosophical message. Men of insight and wisdom often use parables and allegories to outline subjects of such great import but the superficial eye cannot perceive their meaning.

The Ahmadi Muslims believe that the whole range of subjects covering the Messiah, the Antichrist and his ass is allegorical. The Messiah, therefore, is not that earlier prophet who was sent among the Isrealites. The Ahmadis believe that Jesus Christ died a natural death after surviving the torture of the Cross. The Messiah of the prophecy was in fact to be a new person who was to be born amongst the followers of the Holy Prophet Muhammad. Because of some characteristics and qualities he was to share with Jesus, he would be given the title of "Messiah, Son of Mary" in much the same way as a great dramatist is called Shakespeare. The reference to the Cross, too. is a simile. The Messiah will not literally go around wrecking crosses: he will defeat the Christian faith with strong reasoning and powerful arguments.

The destruction of the Cross, therefore, stands for the ideological rout of Christianity. Similarly, the word 'swine' is not to be taken in the literal sense. It connotes the cultural filth of the western world which turns men into beastly beings. The word swine stands for the so called sexual anarchy sweeping across America and Europe. It stands for the disgusting debauchery whichclaims even innocent children as its victims. The Traditions most assuredly did not convey that the Messiah would hunt down herds of wild boar or domesticated pigs. This would be a strange image of a prophet of God. It would rather remind one of Ajax, a hero from Greek mythology, who cut to pieces herds of cattle and flocks of sheep in the mad belief that they were the Greek army's chieftains!

The Antichrist, too, like the Messiah, the Cross and the Swine is symbolic. He symbolises a great and powerful nation which rules not only the earth but also space. The Cross and the Swine are in fact symbols pertaining to this nation. The Traditions say that the Antichrist's right eye will be sightless but his left eye will be large and bright. This is a symbolic description of the fact that though this nation would be devoid of spiritual light yet its material insight and therefore material attainments, would be great.

Lastly, the Ahmadi Muslims consider the Antichrist's ass to be a symbol too- a symbol that was used to describe the means of transportation of the days to come. All the features describing this ass are without exception identifiable with the fuel-powered vehicles invented by the West. Consider the salient features of the ass-as described in the traditions-it will eat fire, it will travel over land, over sea and above the air; its speed will be so great that it will cover a journey of months within the space of a few hours; the passengers will travel not on its back but in its belly which would be lit up; it will announce its departure and ask passengers to take their seats. The fulfillment of these things with such wondrous exactness is a glorious testimony of the truth of the Holy Prophet Muhammad, peace be on him.

According to Ahmadi Muslims, the prophecies relating to the advent of the Imam Mahdi are also symbolic. The wealth he will distribute amongst Muslims is the wealth of spiritual knowledge and wisdom, and not worldly wealth. The refusal of some to accept it further indicates what kind of wealth it was to be; for man is never satiated with material wealth: it is only the spiritual treasures that he spurns.

Thus Ahmadiyyat rejects the philosophy of Islamic renaissance as explained above and propagated by the other sects of Islam. It holds that this philosophy is at variance with the real intent of the Ouranic teachings, at variance with the history of the prophets and most of all at variance with the demonstrated actions of the Holy Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. Ahmadiyyat shuns this ideological opiate which lulls nations into inaction and leads them into the world of make-bel ieve and fantasy.
(Taken from "Revival of Religion" by Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad, may Allah be pleased with him)

Re: Dajjal (Anti-Christ), Jesus and Revival of Islam

It's always interesting to learn about different faiths...Being A Muslim, places one in a very objective frame of mind to study other faiths...

The Ahmadi view of these three things though similar to Islam's own Prophecies, part way in the middle...

Islam and Muslims, however, hold a different view of the three things you mention...

Thanks for sharing...

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Thanks trooper. I was looking for those articles myself.

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Very nicely presented. Kuddos trooper !

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its very common that when u have to spread "one lie" u have to negate a thousand truths....

so if u put up Mr. XYZ as the "promised messiah" who is supposed to fight the dajjal, and no such thing happened, u must falsify the character of the dajjal....
and since the messiah has to be soon followed by the Christ, and no christ shows up with Mr. XYZ, u have to make stories about the death of Christ and anything to deny that he wud come back....

typical methods used whenever anyone wishes to propgate lies....
cant be done without defying many truths....

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IF these are indeed a deeply held religious belief by some, what right to you have to call them ‘lies’? Accusing someone as propagating lies when discussing their faith is highly offensive. That must be difficult to see for those of you who are following the perfect interpretation of the perfect religion, revealed in a perfect book by the perfect prophet as told by the perfect God. But surely somewhere in all that smug perfectness there is a message about insulting and demeaning others.

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I think more offensive is when you discuss someone’s faith when you are not even part of that faith…

It’s like making nigger jokes when you’re white…

And yes…There is a message…

It goes: “You to your way and me to mine…”

Unless you bring in things which have no basis, then you need rpoofs and evidences…

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http://www.islaam.com/audio/lectures/yi/ram/yijesus4.ram

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not again, this thread should have red alert.

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How about hating a country, its history, ideals, government and everything it stands for, but living off it and enjoying its freedoms while cursing it? Where does that rate on the offensive scale? If it’s “ou to your way and me to mine…” it should not be limited to theological discussions.

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thanks trooper

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http://real-islam.org/audio/dajal_comparasion.ram

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One should be critical of one’s nation’s actions if those actions are reprehensible…

I don’t believe anyone can hate a country, its history or whatever…A country is a piece of land with boundaries…The government, you can definitely hate…

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Trooper, can please provide a reference as to where mirza ghulam ahmad told you to address non-ahmadi’s as non-ahmadi** muslims**.

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A country is much more than a land with boundaries. It represents a people - its ideals, history, values and morals. I have more in common with Islam and you have more in common with Ahmadis (if you were willing to admit) than you have to with the United States and what it stands for. It’s like saying you don’t like pigs but have no problem suckling from the sow. It’s no wonder you defend someone’s right to offend a faith since you do it so readily with the US.

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In hundred years or so Ahmadya movement has not gone far with its ideas.

In about 40 years or so after the death prophet (PBUH) large part world accepted Islam.

Need more proof?

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Stick to the topic please and refrain from insulting each other.

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After reading the Ahmadi version, it seems that almost everything related to the return of Isa (AS), Imaam Mahdi and Dajjal are somehow only symbolic to Ahmadis.

It's also interesting how the non-Ahmadi version has been put down by stating that it is a lack of knowledge and understanding on the part of Muslims. In addition, somehow the Muslims are doing absolutely nothing to progress religiously and otherwise, as they await Isa (AS) to return. I must say this is not even an accurate accusation.

Nonetheless, it was interesting to learn about the Ahmadi view on Dajjal, Isa (AS), etc. Thanks for sharing.