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This is not so good… aesi baat hai?
Re: Cultural/Ethnic Bias
This is not so good… aesi baat hai?
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Bihari nahin Bengalis ke baare main kaha tha. Now this single example tells overall tolerance of Pakistani society for different cultures. Bhooke Bengali, Nange Bengali was history, but you can easily find slogans against different ethncities in different parts of the country.
Bhutto was a racist when it came to encash his political mileage, but he is worshipped like anything not only by jiyalas but even leaders from other parties kept on saying something which proved that they follow him like a role model.
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This is not so good... aesi baat hai?
I think now he might know, but as I've proved myself to be a good tenant, he doesn't have any problem as such.
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I am hearing it first time
Lyari’s situation is different from other areas everyone knows that.I don’t think people don’t want to live there because it’s a sindhi dominated area but because there is no peace.
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Liyari is Baloch dominated area too.. but for some reason.. Sindhi and Balochi get along and mingle comfortably… ![]()
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yeah, na jaane kiuN maiN Bangali ke bajaaye Bihaarii likh gayaa! :) Bhihaarii kabaab kaa aasar rahaa hogaa! :D
Khair, Bhutto was indeed and intelligent and fiery orator but he lacked vision for the nation and very self centered.
he got what he deserved at the end for being the causal agent for Pakistan's break-up. jo huaa so huaa, ab Balochistan meN aisa na ho...yeh merii du'aa hai...aameen
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I am hearing it first time
Lyari's situation is different from other areas everyone knows that.I don't think people don't want to live there because it's a sindhi dominated area but because there is no peace.
Lyari is Baloch dominated area with sizable population of Sindhi and Kachhi Memon. I agree that people don't want to live their because of peace issue. But question is why and how peace was disturbed in that area. Besides turf war, lacking to deal with different cultures is also one of the major reason there. Urdu speaking people have been kidnapped and kept hostage in Lyari.
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Not just kidnapped, rather Urdu speaking people have been slaughtered in Lyari. And I have heard that videos of those beheadings have been uploaded on youtube.
It was PPP which openly distributed weapons in Lyari. Later those gangs turned against not just Urdu speaking people but also against Kachhi Memon as well. As a result hundreds of Kachhis had to flee and take refuge in Thatta.
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I have heard that too. But my experience is the opposite.
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Has anyone noticed that posts in this thread are more about Karachi?! As if MQM, Karachi, and Urdu speaking community is all that is to talk about in a thread titled "Culture/ Ethnic Bias"!
There is something dangerously wrong is singling out a minority community for all the evils.
You are just seeing what you want to see, and that's not anyone's problem, or anyone's fault.
People like you do no favour to Urdu Speaking community who waste no opportunity to lump that flop mafia party on them as part of their identity, and the only identity. I think a lot of ethnic bias from all ends might subside if people just stop viewing Urdu Speakers as synonymous for MQM. The Urdu Speakers I know from Karachi have nothing to do with that party (in fact they absolutely loath it), and I'm sure there are plenty of people like them.
There are many different ethnic groups that reside in Karachi, so again the fault lies in you for assuming Karachi only equals Urdu Speakers and MQM. However, just to make it clear for the readers, the issue of Karachi came up as a response to the post that claimed that more ethnic diversity, and more interracial interactions is a successful method of reducing negative perceptions and building communities. But the question arises here is, if it is simply to achieve ethnic harmony, then why isn't Karachi - the big, bold, and buzzing Urban and cosmopolitan City of Pakistan supports this idea? If the logic was so simple to follow, Karachi should've been the model place for Pakistan. But it clearly isn't. Something must've went wrong, but what is it that went wrong? If one feels so insecure to discuss this then that's a different issue altogether.
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So this makes the point that Karachi does not have required tolerance level to accommodate its diversified communities. May be other parts of the country are not highlighted, because they are not as diversified as Karachi. But overall attitude of Pakistani society to encourage accommodating differences on ethnic, linguistic, cultural and sectarian levels is at its downfall.
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So this makes the point that Karachi does not have required tolerance level to accommodate its diversified communities. May be other parts of the country are not highlighted, because they are not as diversified as Karachi. But overall attitude of Pakistani society to encourage accommodating differences on ethnic, linguistic, cultural and sectarian levels is at its downfall.
The ever so tiny Sikh community of KPK (Peshawar to be precise) is very well appreciated and respect part of the community for the locals. And speaking of KPK, it is perhaps the only part of Pakistan which has given a fair chance to run their province to all major political parties belonging to different centres. The argument people of KPK vote amongst ethnic lines is totally bogus.
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One thing that I want to hilight after all this discussion that though the political parties are quite active to encash petty differences, Karachi was and still a paradise for people who come to the city from different parts of the country (and even outside country). I've lived in the city for around 15 years and never felt discriminated being a Sindhi while interacting with urdu speaking and other communities of the city.
My parent's cousins were married in Urdu speaking families back in 1960s, so I don't think that intermarriages were a taboo in totality. Even after 1980s and 1990s Sindhi-Muhajir clashes, we saw many marriages between these ethnicity, which says that there is still a hope when we talk about common men.
As far as comments like 'wo to Punjabi / Muhajir / Sindhi hain', its in human nature that they always exercise caution while dealing with new people and communities. This is also exercised even when you deal or start mixing with people from your own race, but different caste.