I think Pakistan will win their next 4 games with quite ease. The batting was certainly dissappointing, 250 against Namibia is just unexpectable but the opposition also bowled well.
Zimbabwe has to lose their next 3 games against Pak, Aus, and Ind for Pak to easily get into the super 6s.
Re: Man, India got whupped
Not that it makes me feel any better..but just to tell you that it is not unheard of.. 
enjoy…
Good to see at last pakis are jumping up and down…
Re: Re: Man, India got whupped
well Asif, unheard meant in the sense coz it was done to the worlds best batting lineup 
aka India, and Thanks God Pakis arent the best batting lineup, our bowling is better and it does have off days but not on permenant basis as India is since a while.
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Good to see at last pakis are jumping up and down...:)
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but i dont think we will be seeing you jumping up and down anytime soon :D
Re: Re: Re: Man, India got whupped
I hope you are not referring to your performance against Namibia as success of your fast bowlers.
You should check out the performance of the best bowling attack in the world in last 10 matches..and you will know that your bowlers have almost as many off days as our batsmen.
PS :- I never claim that ours is the best batting lineup. Tell me where on this board I have ever said that 
But I can show you many places where you guys have bragged about your bowling attack. 
Saby and Asif bhai can we please stop this.
England match can be tricky but if we go in with a game plan we'll win. Their pace attack is mostly only effective with the new ball so negotiate that and keep wickets in hand we should be able to cane them later on assuming we bat first. Then our bowlers will defend any target 240 + which will probably be enough. If we bat second I'd be worried. i don't think our batsmen like having too much to think about and having a target to chase is exactly that.
England match will be a test for Pakistan. If Pakistan lose this match, then we're pretty much over.
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Saby and Asif bhai can we please stop this.
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:) Ehsan bhai i never started this :)
Okay i m quite :D
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England match will be a test for Pakistan. If Pakistan lose this match, then we're pretty much over.
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insha'allah Pakistan will win :D, But God Forbid thousand times we lose then we still can make it if we win remaning 3 but its better to go in the super sixes with 5 wins on a trot. Lets see what happens.....
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* Pool points table **
Pool A
Match 7/21 Played Won Lost Points NRR
Zimbabwe 2 2 - 8 +3.417
Australia 2 2 - 8 +2.490
England 2 1 1 4 +3.331
Pakistan 2 1 1 4 +0.939
India 2 1 1 4 -0.360
Netherlands 2 - 2 0 -1.965
Namibia 2 - 2 0 -3.419
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can anyone please tell me somewthing about NRR? :-)
and did zimbabwe won the match against england for realz? :o
Net Run Rate or NRR = (Runs Scored by your team / Number of overs faced by your team) MINUS (Runs scored against your team / Number of overs bowled by your team)
If an innings ends before 50 overs (or overs allocated before the beginning of the innings) are up, then the 50 overs or the allocated overs will be used to determine NRR. But if a team wins in lets say 30 overs, then 30 will be used to calculate its NRR.
It may sound a bit confusing but it really isn't.
Yes we can still make the super six…but England will be a moment of truth for this Pakistani team. If we defeat them, that help the lack of confidence in the team right now, especially batting. Inshallah we will win :k:
Maybe Waqar should speak to Imran to figure out what to do with the openers?
Anyways, Imran’s verdict:
Pakistan batting still suspect
Although Pakistan won comfortably against Namibia, their performance raised some very worrying issues.
If South Africa can score more than 300 against New Zealand, while Pakistan cannot score a similar total against Namibia, it shows major problems with the batting.
Of particular concern is the form of Saeed Anwar. He is one of Pakistan’s most inspirational and experienced batsmen, yet he only managed to score 23 in Kimberley. But you have to remember the Pakistani selectors have not done Saeed any favours. He was not part of the tour to South Africa at the end of last year and subsequently, his form has been very poor of late. Form can never be achieved through net practice alone. A batsman needs to score his runs out in the middle. But the World Cup is not the best place for Saeed to get his form back, especially in Pakistan’s tough group. His lack of form is made the worrying because Pakistan have precious few opening options.
Waqar Younis should think about whether Saeed needs replacing and what - and who - are the alternatives.
It was reassuring to see the bowlers firing again. Pakistan are the only team in the tournament who can match the Australians in terms of sheer firepower. And in Shoaib Akhtar and Wasim Akram, Pakistan have two brilliant match-winners. Shoaib can run through any team in the world with his sheer pace. His first spell against Namibia was excellent, bowling at a very quick pace. But he was struggling during his second spell. It seems he is still some way off full match fitness and his body is not yet strong enough to cope with 10 overs of blistering pace.
Just look at Wasim. He maybe 36-years old, but he can still produce bowling of the very highest quality.
**He runs through his 10 overs, making the ball move, making it swing - all at a lively pace. If Pakistan harbour any of chance of winning the World Cup, it lies on Wasim’s broad shoulders. **
Link: BBC SPORT | Cricket World Cup 2003 | Team Pages | Pakistan | Pakistan batting still suspect
Sad to see the people burning pictures, vandalism, violence or whatever else.
The thing I will never understand is, they aren’t out of the World Cup yet. They still have 4 more games remaining, no need to go all crazy.. it’s still wide open for everyone.
Kaif’s house target of fan’s ire
Press Trust of India
Allahabad, February 16
Dejected by continued failures of local boy Mohammed Kaif, fans threw used mobil oil and black paint at the cricketers’s house here to vent their anger.
The same people who had fussed over and pampered their “very own” Kaif for his superlative show in the NatWest Trophy final in England last year, could not resist from giving a vent to their frustration after India slumped to a nine-wicket defeat against Australia at Centurion yesterday.
Saddled by a poor run of form, Kaif failed yet again scoring just one run before being done in by a Jason Gillespie delivery.
The front wall of Kaif’s three-storied house in Kydganj area was blackened by cricket fanatics when they hurled used mobil oil and black paint filled in polythene bags, Kaif’s elder brother Mohd Saif said.
“The family members were fast asleep when the incident took place,” Saif told PTI.
Kaif’s father Mohd Tarif was the first to notice the wall and inform the police.
The family has demanded security cover in the wake of the incident, Saif said.
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India has not played against Australia since the year 2001, very long time ago, and they haven't played against Pakistan since 2000, so they almost forgot what's it like to play against quality and genuine express fast bowlers.
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I 100% agree with you. It matters a lot in players confidence, skill/technique and confidence. In any form of the game, at any level; if practicing with a individual of your calibre, you won't be able to acheive more than that. Unless you grasp for better, you can reach better potential.
Indian bating has great potential, they just need some time with quality bowlers. (kinda too late since WC has started).
Btw.. the I don't think it's the BCCI's fault on this matter, more of the stupid politicians who don't care if a player is in form or not.
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His first spell against Namibia was excellent, bowling at a very quick pace. But he was struggling during his second spell. It seems he is still some way off full match fitness and his body is not yet strong enough to cope with 10 overs of blistering pace.
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I don't know what match the author of this article was watching, Shoaib bowled only 1 spell of straight 8 overs, though he looked a little tired in the end.
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This is just sad news, these idiots are showing their true colors. No matter what form your team is in, you should always support them. I wonder what bad things will happen to the team if they don't make it past the first round or lose to Pakistan.
Here is points table.
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Pool A
Match 7/21 Played Won Lost No Result Tied Points NRR For Against
Zimbabwe 2 2 - - - 8 +3.417 190/25.1 104/25.1
Australia 2 2 - - - 8 +2.490 438/72.2 353/99
England 2 1 1 - - 4 +3.331 144/23.2 142/50
Pakistan 2 1 1 - - 4 +0.939 483/99 394/100
India 2 1 1 - - 4 -0.360 329/100 264/72.2
Netherlands 2 - 2 - - 0 -1.965 278/100 348/73.2
Namibia 2 - 2 - - 0 -3.419 188/75.1 445/75.1
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England... No Biggie!
http://www.wisden.com/series/ODIBulletin.asp?colid=44121156
The Wisden Bulletin
by Amit Varma
Saturday, February 15, 2003
India hadn’t lasted 50 overs against Holland or KwaZulu-Natal, so what could one expect against Australia? Their lowest-ever World Cup score and a thrashing? Correct. India was bowled out for 125 in just 41.4 overs, as Glenn McGrath, Brett Lee and Jason Gillespie combined superbly to skittle out India’s much-vaunted top seven. Adam Gilchrist and Matthew Hayden then added 100 and Australia won easily by nine wickets, with 27.4 overs to spare.
Sachin Tendulkar opened the innings for India and made a solid 36, but no-one else even looked capable – or willing, in some cases – of fighting it out against the Australian attack. The inadequacy of the Indian batsmen was thoroughly exposed – unlike in New Zealand, they could not even blame the pitch here. Only themselves.
Sourav Ganguly (9) and Virender Sehwag (4) both played as if they were in a six-a-side five-over game. Both played and missed more than once and were eventually caught behind flashing hard at wide balls outside off from Lee, who had opened the bowling instead of Gillespie (22 for 1 and 41 for 2).
Rahul Dravid played cautiously for a 22-ball innings of 1, but while his dourness was natural, he did not look his normal assured self. He was finally out in uncharacteristic fashion,playing away from his body to Gillespie’s first ball and inside-edging on to his stumps (44 for 3).
Tendulkar had taken 14 runs off one McGrath over, but was otherwise circumspect, and never seemed completely comfortable against McGrath. Ricky Ponting smartly kept McGrath on for an extended spell of eight overs, and while Tendulkar survived it, Yuvraj Singh did not. He was caught on his crease by one that nipped in and struck him on the pads, and Asoka de Silva, after hesitating initially, gave him out (45 for 4).
Brains, somebody? No thanks, said Mohammad Kaif. He went for a needless pull off Gillespie and only managed to find Andrew Symonds at square leg (50 for 5). With McGrath having bowled eight overs, and the fourth and fifth bowlers being a clear weak spot for Australia, the need of the hour was just to hang in there with Tendulkar.
Dinesh Mongia did just that, batting patiently and fluently, clearly determined not to throw his wicket away. He added 28 useful runs with Tendulkar before Gillespie broke through with a magnificent slower ball. It pitched outside off and made its way towards middle-and-leg as Tendulkar went across the stumps, tried to work it on the on side, and missed, to be caught plumb in front. Tendulkar had made 36, the only man who had appeared to belong at this level, leave alone dominate it.
Mongia (13) followed an over later, slashing Lee uppishly through point, where Symonds took a superb diving catch (80 for 7). Harbhajan Singh and Anil Kumble then added 40 crucial runs, mainly due to some typically entertaining slogging from Harbhajan. But Brad Hogg caught Harbhajan plumb in front for 28 with a ball that pitched on off and turned in sharply, and that was that (120 for 8). Zaheer Khan and Javagal Srinath followed soon after.
Srinath and Zaheer could make no impact against Gilchrist and Hayden, who played them with near-contemptuous ease. Hayden brought up his 2000 runs in one-day international cricket with a straight six off Srinath, and the spinners came on as early as the ninth over. They could do little to halt the Australian assault, and even though Gilchrist was stumped for 48 off Kumble’s bowling, the result was never in doubt.