realpaki: "You guyes called yourself real follower of islam are very narrow minded people who gets angry listining opposite views"
Your posts are not open minded, they are insulting, that is why you get an equally insulting reply (although I have read most of the replies, and they are not so bad). Learn to respect others and they will respect you.
Che
realpaki."I do not belive in any god whether it muslim khuda or hindu bhagwan."
then my question is, why of all the forums in the world, did u chose to come on the 'religion' forum, where everyone believes in God? Unfortunately there is no Atheism forum here, so u are best off sticking to the "jokes" forum, cause your posts are suited to be there best.
First off all my original massage from politic was transfered to this section secondly you guyies are so smart and intellgent that who doesn't even understand
meaning of religion and god
We are all gods with some restrictions and these restrictions ment for to diciplene the society.
You think follower of islam means muslim but in Pakistan who follows islam any way
shia hate sunnies, to gether they hate ahmedies, to gether they hate other faith
Tell me is it what islam taught (ref. read peshwar night and how many of your fellow brothers responding to it)
If you think cutting your pennies in half make you muslim or giving few quotes in the quran makes you muslim, then I think you are wrong, You are cheating yourself.
You will be a real muslim if your behaviour
doesn't matter which part of the world you live in instead you got to prove it buy your behaviour
I belive none of the Pakistani are real muslims but they are hiding behind that faith
I am aware that your fellow brother's are going to put slang remarks, but who cares
-Rule Of Panch Maha Bhute-
Sun, moon, earth, water & Air
These are five elements of our life which you can see or experience. Without these panch maha bhute our existance wont be here .
Our first duty is to worship these panch maha bhute for our and this universe's benefit. If you do this you don't have to follow any religion or god or allha.
Praying allha or going to Macca or Haj is not going to do anything unless and until you worship these five maha bhute
Jai Ramji Ke
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YOU ARE NOT SOPPOSE TO DISCUSS THIS TOPIC, IT IS A SIN TO DO THAT, its in hadith and in quran allah told us NOT to think about who created him!!!
Jaawan
Till next time*K_I_S_S*©
SIN is also Allah's creation, the same way Quran and people who discuss about Quran.
We are living in a society very eager in getting knowledge. There are somany changes in the last 1500 years when Quran was written Condition at that time was different than what it is today.
You as a intellegent humanbeing always question is it right? if yes why? if no then why? This applies to Quran also. You cannot blindly follow Quran without questioning validity of the contents.
This world is not created 1500 years ago , when Quran was written then ask your self what was before? What was during the time of ferrows. What type of religious books being used during the time of mayan empire?
Our biggest sin is the world " DO NOT QUESTION" and that is why majority of muslim community is ignorant
Allaha told us not to question who created him"
How can Allaha if he is only one can tell some thing to Muslims and some thing different to Christians and some thing diff to hindus and some thing different to Jews
what is this nonsence. If he is one then why he didnot told the same thing to every one
and that's dobut me is there any such charactor called ALLHA
Realpaki you talk a load of crap. Allah didn't tell muslims one thing and tell other religions different things. Allah told all of us the same things BUT, apart from Islam all the other religions did not obey what Allah said so they ignored it and came up with a religion other than Islam.
And by the way there is such thing as ALLAH to a muslim, obiously you don't beleive in any religion so you wouldn't beleive in Allah so Allah maybe nonsense to you but not to muslims. If he is nonsense to you then you don't have to braodcast it to the whole of this page since you may offend some of us saying that Allah is nonsense.
As for what Achtung said in the 1st place that all babies were born as muslims it is true....but then they were made to follow a different religion, since their parents were.
Why do you think it is insult to Muslim?
Do you think all the Muslim behave what is said in Quran? Do they including you follow Quran?
WOW i thought pagals exist in real world but this is insane...are you an agent of Shetaan? if you have any faith than you will be able to understand everything that i ll say here...
YOU LOOK SOO CONFUSED real paki!!!
Quran was NOT writing it was REVEALED to Mohammad by angel gabriel!!! it was written ON the paper after the death of mohammad. IT is as it was 1420 years ago. Allah gurranteed proctection of quran and it will stay in its orignial contents as it was revealed... you need to Read quran and hadith to understand islamm and dont listen to NO one else...verse from quran..
Surah 112
1.Say he is allah[who is] ONE,(((Single, UNIQUE and indivisible)))
2.Allah the eternal refuge.((( the one sought in times of difficulty and need, the one depended upon by all existence)))
3. He neither begets nor is born,
4. Nor is there to him any equivalent.
ITs called faith if you dont have it you cant be called a follower of religion. even though we dont see allah, his angels we have his words in quran that make us or propel our faith to believe that his is there and watching us. i want you to read this with 4 eyes open and both side of your brain concentrated on this and lets see what can you pick up!!!
Praise be to Allah.
The evidence that Allah is the only Creator of life may be found in many places in the Qur’an and Sunnah. For example:
"Blessed is He in Whose Hand is the dominion, and He is Able to do all things, Who has created death and life, that He may test you which of you is best in deed, and He is the All-Mighty, the Oft-Forgiving."
[al-Mulk 67:1-2]
"Is, then, He Who creates as one who creates not?"
[al-Nahl 16:17]
"Yet they have taken besides Him other gods that created nothing but are themselves created . . ."
[al-Furqaan 25:3]
Allah challenged all of mankind to create even the most insignificant creature, i.e. a fly, but no one could do that and no one ever will. Allah
says:
"O mankind! A similitude has been coined, so listen to it (carefully): verily! Those on whom you call besides Allah cannot create (even) a fly, even though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly snatched away a thing from them, they would have no power to release it from the fly. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought."
[al-Hajj 22:73]
Imam al-Bukhari reported in his Saheeh from Abu Sa‘eed (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (Peace & Blessings of Allah be upon Him) said: "There is no created being but Allah created it." In Arabic,
the word "khalaqa" means to make out of nothing, which is something that only Allah can do; it is impossible for anyone except Allah to do this. It also carries the meaning of decreeing or foreordaining. **]
See Fath al-Bari Sharh Saheeh al-Bukhari, 13/390.
The Religion of Allah (Islam) is proud and cannot be defeated by the
kaafirs’ arrogance about the knowledge they possess. Allah says:
". . . [they] are deceived by the life of this world . . ."
[al-An‘aam 6:70]
"They know only the outside appearance of the life of this world, and they
are heedless of the Hereafter."
[al-Rum 30:7]
We ask Allah to help us to be steadfast in our adherence to His Religion,
and to make our end good. And Allah knows best.
GOOD LUCK!!! :)
Jaawan
Till next time*Keep_It_Simple_Stupid*©
RealPaki please do not blaspheme religions or abuse people. It is not tolerated by this site.
Thanks.
My friend you haven't told us what is the religion and who are real religious people?
Some time I feel sorry for the people who is living in states and so ignorent
If you were born in the city of Vatican, what will be your religion?
Sikh?
Oh and by the way my savage friend, it is i g n o r a n t, I've cleared this up before, go read Jaawan's posts.
realpaki,
in ur previous mail u said jai raam ji ki,
so whcich raam would that be
PLEASE NEXT TIME SPECIFY.
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If you want to enjoy a "Creation Of Allah"
you got to merge with nature, then only you can talk
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