Re: Cousin Marriage ... Islam Allows it but.....
first and foremost..i take my "intellectually dishonest" comment back and i apologize....
second, i never said that statistically speaking your analysis is wrong....but when you do research you go beyond numbers....almost always!
I do understand your analysis but i was shedding light on your conclusions....here is what you said
"surprisingly the rest 3205 children had among them 195 children who had congenital problems born of Brit-Paks who were not cousins, which is 6.1%....So here the children of non-cousin parents had MORE problems than the children of cousin parents !!! The problem of congenital diseases is more to do with race than it is to do with marrying cousins"
and i am saying that **statistically speaking **your conclusion will be valid not only for this small data-set of mirpur based pakbrit but it will be valid also for whole punjab or even for whole pakistan...but that is just one part and I then reflected on this conclusion from historical perspective
I am saying that this is not a relevant point as this non-cousin group also shares a serious interwoven DNA history in a flat genetic society like ours via cousin marriages at some point in their lineage history...maybe not at the point of survey but definitely at some point in the history.
this is a very important point...Let me give you my personal example.....I am a rajput muslim, parents also rajputs (not cousins) and their parents also rajputs (second cousins) and then their parents also rajputs (not first cousin but closely related)....my wife is also a rajput muslim, her parents also rajputs and so on....of course my wife and I are not cousins and god forbidden, if we have a "not-normal kid", statistically it will automatically fall under your "not-cousins but giving birth to not-normal kids" bucket ...but it wont be fair.....i can guarantee you that considering both me and my wife belong to rajput clan and been living in Punjab for over 1000 years, at some point these 2 families must have close inter family marriages....and that gene can show up anytime.....
jats, syeds and many other tribes do the same in indo-pak
Yes but I was saying the same thing ... I said the issue is a race problem rather than a cousin problem ... Admittedly the cousin chain becomes the race problem ... But only if there are other factors at play ... These are marrying cousins out of obligation rather than by desire ... Because obligation will mean the genetically and otherwise naturally un-selectable people will end up getting married and having kids ... Whereas if cousin marriages were allowed out of natural desires then probably only the fittest cousins would inter-marry hence eliminating the problem of congenital disorders ... The reason is therefore not the cousin marriage, but in the practice of marrying biologically undesirable people who happen to be from the family or from the tribe.
Islam allows us to marry cousins, but it advises us to marry the best as well ... So health, beauty are factors that we should be looking for ... The reports are making it out that cousin marriages cause mutations in genes, but that is not true ... the mutations are already there ... Where we would otherwise naturally breed them out, by only marrying the fittest cousins, our customs are preventing that when we start marrying any cousin ... regardless of their conditions.
And certain traits are favourable too ... Sometimes breeding out a problem also means breeding out a benefit on the flip side. It may be that we are more prone to disease, but it may also be that we are more fertile ... Who knows?
I still think it is vendetta against cousin marriages designed to shed bad light on Muslims to suit certain political agendas.