I don’t approve of parents disciplining their kids in such a manner. Time and time again its been proven by research that there are far more effective methods to keep children at bay.
I’d like to ask y’all (parents or not) if you:
Would allow your kids to be spanked by any other authoritative figure i.e. teacher, babysitter.
Would you spank your kids?
Why? Why not?
p.s. Oh yeah Currupt Angel, I think desis do it more than other ethinicities 
c’mon you love it when I give you the attention 
i wouldnt let anyone else spank my kids..
but me.. as in spanking.. (the american way)
i find that quite UNKOSHERR
i more liek a thapar type.. but not too hard... i think children need to be punished to a degree.. an they should also be taught the difference between right an wrong an parents should to a certain degree allow children to make their own mistake.. that is a punishment itself...
so in conclusion
yes i might hit them if its deserved an why can i hit them..
well lets jus say if im gonna be in LABOR PAINNNN for hoursss an hourss an sick for 9 months.. I have EVERYYY RIGHTTTTTTTTTT to make sure it stays safe n sound in this world accordin to MY RULESS made for him/her (whatevers its gonna be)
Re: Corporal Punishment
Khushfehmiyaan…(pls ask a desi to translate it for you)
By the way, what took you so long to come up with another desi-bashing thread?
Anyways, I don’t approve of this type of punishment. I can’t imagine beating my kid(s) forget about letting someone ‘touch’ them! Reasons are obvious, I don’t think we can teach someone through hurting him/her physically or mentally.
^ yeah i agree with CA.. i cant imagine hitting/spanking a child... be he/she be mine or someone else's.... i know a few people who are quite comfortable in giving a spank.. but i dont think fear is the way to go...
Devil: Before I jump at you with the books, may I ask where would you beat your child? What degree would be a light slap as opposed to hard? What would it accomplish? How does it teach the child?
Currupt Angel: Ah yes my No. 1 assumptive fan. How you been 
Took me long cuz of exams and school, otherwise you know how much I hate desis and can’t wait to bash the race 
Coming back to the topic. Hmm…what other methods are there because all of us can get irritated at times. Parents just beat their kids to a silent still till they rebel like no tommorrow in their teens.
Sadzz: So you’re admitting that you’ve never beaten or hit a child? and you will never do that? If you don’t think fear is the way to go, then what is? Knowing a few people who spank their kids, you let them do it? Do you not make the effort to stop them or show them how to avoid corporal punishment?
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Devil: Before I jump at you with the books, may I ask where would you beat your child? What degree would be a light slap as opposed to hard? What would it accomplish? How does it teach the child?
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i would nott BEATT.. liek halka sa thaparr u kno.. hard is when panchon unglion ke nishaan aa gayen.. jus a light one.. enug to scare him.. n tell him that it was sumthin that made mamma angry... but not traumatize the poor child.. believe me.. i dont have the guts to hit a child hard myselff...
I would succumb to hittin when askin the child not to do sumthin leads to requestin the child not to do sumthin to telinng an then forbiddin the child not to do sumthin
if he does an disobey.. then a slap is in order an if that doesnt work.. let the child figure out on its own why mamma said no
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Sadzz: So you're admitting that you've never beaten or hit a child? and you will never do that? If you don't think fear is the way to go, then what is? Knowing a few people who spank their kids, you let them do it? Do you not make the effort to stop them or show them how to avoid corporal punishment?
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the only person ive ever beaten up is my bro.. but we are only a year apart.. so that doesnt count..
well i think u can teach them by telling them how they will be rewarded if they behave.. by spanking them... i think ur teaching them that its ok to go spank other kids if they do something wrong..
and yes i do stop people if i see them spanking kids.. or if they say its ok..
hey Devilciious :) hehe im sure ur not beating them up.... i was referring to the big hardcore thapars that parents throw upon kids... ouch!
Sometimes you have to beat them to let them 'know' the seriousness of the matter......but it should not be occasional.
I'm a pro-corporal punishment person myself. I was regularly smacked/spanked for what did wrong as a child, and I believe that it played a critical in morning my upright character today.
Furthermore, my parents' best friends are a Bangladeshi family where the mother never used corporal punishment on the children, resorting to just a stern voice at most, but where the dad did. You can see that the children are less obedient to the mother than to the dad... if they are misbehaving, even if their mother repeatedly tells them to stop in her "angry voice", they'll often keep on doing it. Their dad only needs to tell them once, and they'll immediately start behaving well.
Similarly, I was like with my dad. I can only remember my dad resorting to corporal punishment two or three times throughout my
childhood, whereas my mum did two or three times per week :D
The result was that I always took advantange of my dad more than my mum, and was less obedient to him since I felt that I could get away with it
Whilst I utterly hated and feared corporal punishment as a child, by my mid-teens I was truly grateful for having been raised in that way since I believe it was critical for my character formation and development of self-discipline.
Re: Corporal Punishment
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Time and time again its been proven by research that there are far more effective methods to keep children at bay.
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My own opinion has always been that psychological research of this kind is more vulnerable to being affected by the personal bias of the researcher than research in physical or biological science.
And the vast majority of research into whether or not corporal punishment is effective for children is carried out by organisation that are trying to show that corporal punishment does not work on children - the potential for bias in immense. Not to mention the liberal social pressure on even independent researchers these days not to say that the use of physical force on a child is beneficial...
Kan bhi tu kheenchatey hain log. Totally dislike that , especially in pak teachers twist it in rather cruel way taking their frustrations out on poor kids.
Anyways the way i see it is if your principle your kids (which ever way works )nobody will touch them. And every kid is not same. Anyhow don't beat them cruelly but occasional thaper or spanking or what ever is needed by some. I got it quite alot :D yet i have nothing agaisnt my mother still love and respect her.And it did work for me.So i can only speak for myself.
How many guppies here did get a thaper shaper from their mum when they were kids?
I beg to differ. Corporal Punishment have a devastating affect on a childs psyche and self-worth. Getting smacked for breaking a glass or a plate places fear in a child that if he does anything worse he or she would get a worse beating for something more serious. It may instill discipline, but it doesnt instill respect or trust. Those two are mandatory in any relationship esp between children and parents.
I have personally seen those kids that have been abused by corporal punishment do not trust their parents, nor have much respect for them except for the fear of the power they wield. Kids are innocent and naive, they need to be explained that they did something wrong, not beaten for doing it.
A personal example. My cousins 7 year old, used to get money from a kid 2 years his senior so that he would tackle him playing football. The kid thought hey easy money, why not? When me and my sister found out, we told his parents and then at various intervals all of us had a talk with him. He now understand what he did could be consider extortion and doesnt do it anymore.
With corporal punishment in such a case, it could have backfired on the kid and parents ie the kid could have continued to do it but instead just learnt not to get caught. Plus once a child learns that if you dont get caught you can get away with anything, whats to stop him or her from cheating, lying etc.
I honestly have never been hit for anything in my life. Neither has my sister. Yet the level of trust between my parents and me is astounding. An example, i was in Holland twice. Both times my parents know i was at the Red light District and at a coffee house (the ones that sell drugs). My parents trust me and i never broke their trust. I was there but did nothing against the values and principles i was brought up with. Heck my parents usually know the names which bars and clubs i hang out at.
Discipline is the ultimate goal. Just depends what methodology you use.
^^Once in a while is important…Just for repeat offenses and to show who’s boss…Also to instill the importance of authority…
The sooner it is done, the less parents would have to resort to it later on…
And make sure by you get the point that by ‘sooner’ I mean as soon as they are able to understand…Not when the baby gets born and you start disciplining it on the delivery bed…
Cm you sound like an ideal shareef bacha. Some are not , and there is a difference between hitting and hitting. I do think it should be last step though.
Shareef? Me you gotta be kidding. Most of my friends wish to lynch me for my "unislamic" behaviour. Its just the way i have been brought up. Trust your parents and they trust you. If you fear your parents or the fact that you will be abused due to some incident you are far less inclined to actually tell them. If you learn to lie and hide stuff at a young age, you arent really gonna change in later years.
A slap is hardly corporal punishment
Yes it is.
I disagree CM. I received physical punishment as I child and I turned out to be a fine upstanding gentleman, rather than the twisted, untrusted creature you imply such discipline would produce.
Fine Upstanding Gentleman? Can we cover the definitions of those words again?
Plus who said twisted? Look we arent gonna go into personal examples here, but trust is a major issue in such situations.