where does it lead to?
if this will happen, then that will happen
if this has not happened, that would not have happened
what is the basis of a contingent frame of mind?
is it philosophically weightful to call it lacking a spirit for adventure or being strictly risk-averse?
does such a mind successfully function to enable its possesor with the right set of tools in making own credibility as well as having social finnesse to connect with others, without induced and inducing fear or doubts?
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Dushwari:
Murphy's Law states that:
"If anything can go wrong, it will;
If anything can't go wrong, it still will."
So no matter how best we plan, things which are ought to go wrong, will still go wrong. Like Thomas Edison said:
"I did not fail 1000 times. I know 1000 ways, it will not work".
So I believe it's the state of mind. How we take our successes or failures(?) depends on how we look at things.
Best,
Arazi
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there is another law: okam's razor.
in latin: lex parsimoniae
simpler observable facts and events and believing it to be true is what might enable the murphy's to be less likely in case of negative, damaging effects of people and their experiences.
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Contingency in mindset from a religious perspective is thus:
What has happened 'should' not have happened is blasphemy because we believe that whatever happens has happened by the Will of God.
To therefore become overly cursory of what has happened is not the style of a believing Muslim.
Superstitions are often conformant to such mindsets. That if you do such and such ... such and such will happen.
From Islam again we know that this worldly life is a deceptive one. In that we believe the effect is caused by what we attribute the cause to be. However, we know that or rather should believe that God has dominion over all things. Entertaining the ability to walk on water would be possible if we have enough purity in faith to ask God to facilitate that.
Then there are decision that have to be made and there are decisions that needn't be made.
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absolutely true. that is the right way to look at the benefit of non-contingent mindset.
and that is what the world needs more of - living based on logic and reasoning than on fallacy of things being predictable always in the exact same way.
which is why prior knowledge enables us to make use of our ability to improvise, ideally ethically.
Contingency in mindset from a religious perspective is thus:
What has happened 'should' not have happened is blasphemy because we believe that whatever happens has happened by the Will of God
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Are we responsible for our deeds?, if we are then we should know that responsibility always comes with an authority, if result of our act is directly a manifestation of Allah’s will, then we don’t stand accountable for our good or bad deeds, and the only thing that we could be accountable for would be our intentions, not the results and if I stretch it a little further even we could not intend to do anything without Will of Allah.
I believe that we are completely independent in making our decisions, however we have no control on the outcome of our decisions, and that too not because Allah has already written the fate of our decisions but only because;
1) Allah is omniscient, and knows the outcome
2) Allah has created all the possibilities
The true meaning, to me, of Allah’s will is not that the result of every thing is pre decided, but the result of an action or intention could have not been the same if Allah’s will was different.
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Peace bro IntelliPhant
Please permit me to explain myself. When something happens it happens by the Will of God. Regardless of who initiated nothing can happen outside His Will. Man cannot disregard Qadr, but man can disregard Legislative Divine Law. Like for example the instruction to pray. However, when we do not pray God Wills it to be so. He permits us to disobey Him. Hence the nature of freedom of will. When we make a choice He facilitates that choice so we can see the effects of our choices manifest as though we have made them happen. Even when this choice is against Islam God will make it happen. To say that such and such SHOULD NOT have happened is wrong. It was in this context I meant the phrase.
As for repentance ... this is the opportunity that occurs after the event. Once we have made a bad choice with or without repurcusion we have another choice that presents itself before us. That is to do it again or to repent. If we do it again the God Wills it so, if we repent and never do it again then God Wills it so.
Everything you said above is congruent and correct, but my post was purely on mindset of contingency. This is a trick played on us by Shaitan, by dragging ourselves down to a rut ... why did I do this , oh why and then we fall into despair which is a condition outside the adqeedah of a Muslim.
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religion has its place and albeit all important. still, the onus is on reasoning and ethics.
what is not right is not right even for an atheist.
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Dushwari, it is important to identify where we draw our reasoning and ethics. With that said, religion is not anything alien to human nature, it only reminds us what is embedded in our nature and that is precisely why sociopolitical values are more or less universal in acceptance.
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no, but then religion is sadly always politicized, then. so would it not make sense to protect the religion separate and keep the world's ploys beaten at their own game?
As for repentance ... this is the opportunity that occurs after the event. Once we have made a bad choice with or without repurcusion we have another choice that presents itself before us. That is to do it again or to repent. If we do it again the God Wills it so, if we repent and never do it again then God Wills it so.
Thanks Psyah Bhai, only a few words;
An action of an individual is not a manifestation of Allah's will directly,
however Allah's will is in the creation of a possible action embarked upon by an individual.
I am sure we are saying the same thing, just differently.
no, but then religion is sadly always politicized, then. so would it not make sense to protect the religion separate and keep the world's ploys beaten at their own game?
"Juda Ho Deen Seyasat sai Tu Reh Jatee Hai Changaizee"
I am not talking about "talabanization" of politics, but I if you have no knowledge of the ethics of religion then statements like " Promise is not Quran or Hadith" become widely used forgetting that Quran also said " WalMaufoonA Beahede Iza Ahadoo".
Dushwari, religion is way of life, politics is not an entity external to the sphere of religion, a bad practice of social life should be not be attributed to religion to malign it , but to those who use religion to deface its purity for their own political ventures.
Thanks Psyah Bhai, only a few words;
An action of an individual is not a manifestation of Allah's will directly, however Allah's will is in the creation of a possible action embarked upon by an individual.
I am sure we are saying the same thing, just differently.
Yes ... we are saying the same thing. We choose ... He facilitates those choices be they harmful to us or beneficial, otherwise the promise of freedom of choice will never be fulfilled.
Additionally every juncture we cross on our life paths the hardships are tests for patience and reward follows and blessings are tests for gratitude and reward follows. So repentance is like an opportunity for seeking reward as well as being a declaration of 'I could have done that better'.
We should learn from our mistakes not grieve (too much) over them
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A tad off topic but ...
The better Judge is not the one who can sentence when a law has been broken, but rather to sentence in accordance to the bounds of when a law can or cannot be broken.
True Islamic Governance is height of Islamic understanding and thus political ventures should not be undertaken by the poet (emotionist) nor by merchant (sensationist) but by the philosopher (people of reason).
The Qadi status is what is required i.e. at least a dozen of them before Shari'ah should be attempted.
Islam is not divorced from politics - though it may be from the modern/media definition of this term.