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If somebody is acting like perfect human is a different story*** but calling all the GS posters from the lower class or having low mentality is just disrespect.***
I think people should take into account that being well off financially or being raised abroad does not guarantee that a person is educated or open minded. I've come across people that are well off and have lived in Britain their entire lives yet have a completely ignorant, illiberal mindset. I'm not sure why people always assume that people who are working class or not wealthy are ignorant and narrow minded. It's ridiculous. Finances do not dictate a person's mentality.
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I'm not stopping them from praying but try to get what I'm saying. I know they both are separate things but where it says they can go together? If you're praying and keep committing sins means you don't fear from Allah as simple as that.
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^It's rather like people who go on about how sorry they are about something and then go on to do the same thing again.
Not really!.... Praying namaz means worshipping to Allah, believing in him, asking for help, and etc. People pray namaz for different reasons. We cannot judge people if they wear bikini and tell them that they shouldn't pray.... Praying is a requirement so a person can't say "Oh I wear bikini so i dont pray on a regular basis"...
Who knows that Bikini Muslim girl might be better than most of us? She might be giving money to the poor, respecting elders, fulfilling other Muslim duties in other ways?
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All we have learned in our lives is to point fingers at other people... If someone is doing a good thing, lets cherish them.. Instead, we start giving our fatwa.. Oh so you are doing this haram thing then you better keep following all the haram track.... It is upto Allah to decide. We all very well know what is haram and halal.. Gunnah and Farz.
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^I don't judge anyone. How other people choose to practice (or not) is completely up to them. What people choose to do with their lives is between them and God.
Anyhow, I do find it illogical when people who claim to be so terribly devout and religious do things which are against their religion and continue to do these things on a regular basis and then claim that they are the perfect Muslims simply because they pray. This isn't directed at your or the example you gave. Just a general observation.
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^I don't judge anyone. How other people choose to practice (or not) is completely up to them. As self centered as this may sound, what people choose to do with their lives is between them and God.
Anyhow, I do find it illogical when people who claim to be so terribly devout and religious do things which are against their religion and continue to do these things on a regular basis and then claim that they are the perfect Muslims simply because they pray. This isn't directed at your or the example you gave. Just a general observation.
People who claim that they are perfect Muslims are ridiculous! We all like to think that we are good people.
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Not really!.... Praying namaz means worshipping to Allah, believing in him, asking for help, and etc. People pray namaz for different reasons. We cannot judge people if they wear bikini and tell them that they shouldn't pray.... Praying is a requirement so a person can't say "Oh I wear bikini so i dont pray on a regular basis"...
Who knows that Bikini Muslim girl might be better than most of us? She might be giving money to the poor, respecting elders, fulfilling other Muslim duties in other ways?
BSB you flip the topic really fast :). We're not having good muslims and bad muslims debate here yet.
Namaz is farz and no doubt about it, even a drinker has to pray when he's sober but the thing is what you're learning from it? For me Namaz is just more than a requirement. It prevents me from committing sins, it makes me fear from Allah, it helps me to keep away from worries, it makes my faith stronger that every thing is in the hands of Allah, so for me Namaz has a complete different definition.
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If somebody is acting like perfect human is a different story but calling all the GS posters from the lower class or having low mentality is just disrespect.
I think people should take into account that being well off financially or being raised abroad does not guarantee that a person is educated or open minded. I've come across people that are well off and have lived in Britain their entire lives yet have a completely ignorant, illiberal mindset. I'm not sure why people always assume that people who are working class or not wealthy are ignorant and narrow minded. It's ridiculous. Finances do not dictate a person's mentality.
I never meant that!
Not really!.... Praying namaz means worshipping to Allah, believing in him, asking for help, and etc. People pray namaz for different reasons. We cannot judge people if they wear bikini and tell them that they shouldn't pray.... Praying is a requirement so a person can't say "Oh I wear bikini so i dont pray on a regular basis"...
**Who knows that Bikini Muslim girl might be better than most of us? **She might be giving money to the poor, respecting elders, fulfilling other Muslim duties in other ways?
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^My comment wasn't directed at you. I brought up the issue as several posters in this thread stated that people who are well off are more liberal as if it were a fact.
