Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
The word Hind comes from the Indus River and so Hind does not mean India but means the area around the Indus River which is Pakistan today.
So they are talking about Pakistan and not India but before 1947 was technically India
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
Most probably because they were not discovered when the Hadith was written:halo:
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
M2K! You mean to say that they lack in knowledge? Are you kafir?
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
^^ Well Obviously
How the heck can they predict the discovery of a New continent
No one has complete knowledge because they are human after all
Thats like asking someone to tell them what will happen 1,000 years from now
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
please stop confusing people with facts
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
Ik PAKISTAN banaavan ge vich Hindustan de fer assi,
Phera Ghaznavi vaala paavan ge vich Hindustan de fer assi,
Tenu sooliyan te latkaavan ge vich Hindustan de fer assi.
Ik PAKISTAN banaavan ge vich Hindustan de fer assi,
Tipu da dor dikhaavan ge vich Hindustan de fer assi,
Tenu aisa sabak sikhavan ge vich Hindustan de fer assi.
Ajey badla Masjid Baabri da vi hai karz sadiyan jaana te,
Tere saarey mandir dhaavan ge vich Hindustan de fer assi.
Sat pushtaan teriyan parr parr ke hath laa len apne kanna nu,
Aisi taareekh doraavan ge vich Hindustan de fer assi.
Ik PAKISTAN banaavan ge vich Hindustan de fer assi.
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
I’m sure China has been mentioned.. As for other places I;m sure even if the Prophet :saw: knew about them it would be pointless telling this to his companions because they wouldn’t know what he’d be talking about..
Islam doesn’t have time for “useless” information, What we know is that Islam wil spread over the entire globe.
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
Muslim invaders couldn't convert, or kill all the Hindus- there were too many of them and were powerful too. well, this is what I've heard. i'm no scholar
Hahahahaha... The first bit is a laugh, I wouldn't **** an Indian with a stolen one let alone my own, I'm sure the beduoins felt the same way..
As for the second bit, hahahahahahahahahaha... Indians powerful? Are you on crack?
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
tu gana gaake hi khush ho jaa
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
If our Muslim brothers and sisters in Kashmir and Gujarat keep getting persecuted by Indians (Hindus) then the song will come true...
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
Ok Auntyji:blush:
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
Unfortunately, Muslims have a habit of glorifying any Muslim King/ruler/Caliph/warlord since early Islam till to date who led an army and conquered different [Muslim or non-Muslim] territories in the name of Islam and Jihad. Most of them were imposters, dictators and murderers who had no respect for the religion, its values and people. They used the name of religion to capture foreign lands [for money]. The battles those followed resulted in the killings of thousands of people. Its had been so among Muslims throughout the history.
The example of a tyrant and oppressor like Hajjaj bin Yousaf sending his nephew Muhammad bin Qasim to conquer India because of a Muslim woman is a travesty of logic and history. The man who killed and ordered to kill thousands of his opponents [religious/political] in his own country would care a damn about a Muslim woman allegedly held by Raja Dahir. Hajjaj and his stooges were finding a reason to invade India and any such oppurtunity couldn't be left unseized, and thats exactly what happened. Read History of Sindh written by scholars of ALL backgrounds, not just Muslim historians who paint a rosy picture of Muslim warlords of history.
The example of Tariq bin Ziyad and Musa bin Nusayr invading Spain/Undalas is no more different from this Indian example. Just find out WHY did Berbers and an army from Arabia first attacked Visigoth government in Undalas.
It can be anything but Jihad.
No, I'm not an Indian and yes I'm a Muslim.
Blessed be. . .
Regardless of what the Caliph's true intentions were for invading South-Asia or whether or not he truly cared about fellow Muslims it doesn't change the fact that the Muslims of Sindh and South-Asia were being persecuted by the Hindus and needed liberating..
...and you shouldn't hold Muhammad Bin Qasim responsible for his uncles' wrongdoings, the lad was only 17 yrs old when he came and liberated the Muslims of South Asia from Hindu persecution, don't be so ehsaan-faramosh (ungreatful).
As far as history is concerned, stop reading propoganda and twisted facts wrote by those who were jealous of our greatness, our glory and splendour and didn't spare a chance to try and malign us.. I mean the Christian Crusaders were writing that we worshipped three idols called Allah, Muhammad and something else which we kept in our Mosques and they broke them, LOL, that's how truthful the world was when wrting about us... They wrote BS coz we were the greatest at the time and they were jealous of us..
Yeh Hindu barrey makaar hotay hain, they'll be beating the sh*t out of a Muslim whilst screaming "bachao bachao Pathan maar raha hai" ("help help the Muslim is killing me") aur ham sirf issi pe khush ho jaatey hain ke ham barrey bahadur hain "khatri ko maar diya", lekin poori duniya ki nazron mein bilaawajeh zaalim nazar aatey hain but it's actually the Hindus who are the true zaalims and Muslims the mazloom's but because of their makaari they always manage to show it as opposite.. Look at Gujarat, a technical fault causes a fire in atrain and kills some Hindus yet it gets blamed on Muslims who then get mercilessly slaughtered by the Hindus... In Kashmir India illegally occupies Muslim lands, kill Muslim men and children, rape their women, desecrate their Mosques and when Muslims who are tired of this take up arms they get labelled terrorists (atangvadi) when India is the biggest terrorist itself, it covers its evil deeds and puts forth a few fake gestures of acceptance like allowing Shariat just to pretend that it's a democracy..
.. Democracy my rear end, they wont let the people of Kashmir the right to determine their future in front of ther world yet the entire world overlooks their hideous crime of denying Kashmiris freedom..
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
I’m not an aunty..
I’m a boy, 18/M 
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
oye chal jaake padai kar .
exams khatam ho gaye kya?
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
Exactly the word Hind comes from Sindh which is the Indus.
There’s a saying from our Prophet :saw: “I feel a cool breeze coming from Hind”, I’m not giving the Hadith any meaning but I hope that Insha Allaah he was referring to Pakistan, after all Pakistan was born on the night of 27th Ramadan (likely to be Lailat ul-Qadr).
Takbir! Allaahu Akbar!
As-Salaamu Alayka Ya Rasool-Allaah! (I hope the angles who deliver our Salaams to him have access to the net).
Pakistan Zindabad! Aameen.
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
[QUOTE]
...and you shouldn't hold Muhammad Bin Qasim responsible for his uncles' wrongdoings, the lad was only 17 yrs old when he came and liberated the Muslims of South Asia from Hindu persecution, don't be so ehsaan-faramosh (ungreatful).
meray bhai this lad of 17 had a disciple of Abdullah ibn abbas [ra] called Attiyyah ibn sa'd [ra] whipped because he refused to curse Ali ibn abutalib[as]
[QUOTE]
As far as history is concerned, stop reading propoganda and twisted facts wrote by those who were jealous of our greatness, our glory and splendour
[/QUOTE]
what twisted facts ? you think the crusaders invented the crimes of ummayyads and likes of hajjaj ....what kind of delusional world do you live in?
our historians have recorded them in great detail
is greatness in recounting the battlefield exploits of disgraceful men who killed the best of the ummah and enslaved the others , pillaged the holy places of Islam?
or do you admire the sassanians and byzantines where the biggest thug became the most respectable and sat on the throne.
..
[QUOTE]
Yeh Hindu barrey makaar hotay hain, they'll be beating the sh*t out of a Muslim whilst screaming "bachao bachao Pathan maar raha hai" ("help help the Muslim is killing me") aur ham sirf issi pe khush ho jaatey hain ke ham barrey bahadur hain "khatri ko maar diya", lekin poori duniya ki nazron mein bilaawajeh zaalim nazar aatey hain but it's actually the Hindus who are the true zaalims and Muslims the mazloom's but because of their makaari they always manage to show it as opposite.. Look at Gujarat, a technical fault causes a fire in atrain and kills some Hindus yet it gets blamed on Muslims who then get mercilessly slaughtered by the Hindus... In Kashmir India illegally occupies Muslim lands, kill Muslim men and children, rape their women, desecrate their Mosques and when Muslims who are tired of this take up arms they get labelled terrorists (atangvadi) when India is the biggest terrorist itself, it covers its evil deeds and puts forth a few fake gestures of acceptance like allowing Shariat just to pretend that it's a democracy..
.. Democracy my rear end, they wont let the people of Kashmir the right to determine their future in front of ther world yet the entire world overlooks their hideous crime of denying Kashmiris freedom.
[/QUOTE]
yes i agree hindu bohat maakar hotay hain ....[plz refer to the thread i started about why dhimmi status was given to hindus when idolaters should be given choice of conversion or war ]
but this does not mean that we start defending the conduct of people like hajjaj ....waging war against hindus was legitimate but men like him should never have been put in charge as they fought for worldly gain not for spreading the faith
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
Legend has it that the caliph of Baghdad brought together a council of Ulema, and the decision was made...I have yet to come across the rationale, but I suppose 'by analogy' the status could be granted (i.e. they had a book, in some sense ascribed to a single deity with multiple manifestations like Christianity, and so on).
Truth be told...I think this alleged council of Ulema was a myth. Most likely, the Caliph of Baghdad was looking for a province in India form which he could collect tribute from.
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
^ yes it is sad indeed in the pious caliphate people were encouraged to accept islam …in later dynasties conversions were discouraged as that would mean less taxes to Bayt-ul -Mal …gone were the days when the caliph himself has to be accountable to the public for every penny …bayt ul mal now was essentially the kings treasury which he could spend as he pleased…sad part is that muslims tosay think of this as the "golden age of islam "
the humility of the early caliphs was replaced by arrogance in the later ones
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Articles/companion/17_umar_bin_al_khattab.htm#When%20Umar%20Was%20Put%20To%20Explanation
[/size]
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
[quote=Toloo-e-Aftob]
meray bhai this lad of 17 had a disciple of Abdullah ibn abbas [ra] called Attiyyah ibn sa'd [ra] whipped because he refused to curse Ali ibn abutalib[as]
what twisted facts ? you think the crusaders invented the crimes of ummayyads and likes of hajjaj ....what kind of delusional world do you live in? our historians have recorded them in great detail
is greatness in recounting the battlefield exploits of disgraceful men who killed the best of the ummah and enslaved the others , pillaged the holy places of Islam? or do you admire the sassanians and byzantines where the biggest thug became the most respectable and sat on the throne.
..
yes i agree hindu bohat maakar hotay hain ....[plz refer to the thread i started about why dhimmi status was given to hindus when idolaters should be given choice of conversion or war ] but this does not mean that we start defending the conduct of people like hajjaj ....waging war against hindus was legitimate but men like him should never have been put in charge as they fought for worldly gain not for spreading the faith
thoda pad likh liye hote to tumhari aisi soch nahin hoti.
Re: Conquest of India Prior to the Day of Judgement
Is thread ka koi sir pair nahin hai.