Confusion Regarding A Supplication (Dua) of Holding Fast

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The below image is going viral on various social medias i.e., facebook, whatsapp etc.

So my questions are:

  1. Who originated this supplication (dua) as seen in image?
  2. Is the Indians/Pakistanis are the only communities following this? As claimed in above image?
  3. Is it authentic supplication (dua)?

Please answer with references please. :jazak:


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I too got this msg about this dua and the other one which we read for opening fast, from friends and family members. This is really confusing. Here in Pak, we get Ramzan Calender every year from different masjids they all have these duas written on them and even on TV they recite this, it sounds strange that all well-known islamic scholars here in pakistan allowed something unauthentic to this degree and for such a long period of time.

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Isn't that the dua you make when you make intention to fast the next day?
Its not the dua for breaking your fast. You make intention to fast the next day after you've eaten. Its just a dua of intention isn't it?

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:konfused: why is no one replying

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Can someone translate the Urdu? ahem...abcd here...ahem

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Basically it says This dua isn't in any hadith. If you read it or use it then this is bidaat. Saying bismillah before eating is established in the sunnah.

Which I think is just a bit OTT. Everything's bidaat these days apparently :|

I'm pretty sure this is not the dua for opening fast. This is what you say when you make intention to fast the next day. The dua translated is basically "I make intention to keep fast tomorrow in the month of Ramadhan."
The dua you say when opening fast is the one that translates as "Oh Allah I have fasted for thee, have believed in thee and have opened my fast by thy provision so please accept it from me."
Its that "Allahuma inner lakasumtoh wabayka amantoh was elayka tawakaltoh was ala rizkika aftartoh wataqabal minee."

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do you know that dua for staring your meal is

"Bismillahi wa ala baraka tillahi" and not simple bismillah

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There are three authentic duas before eating

1)Bismillah
2)Bismillah hira rah ma nir raheem
3)bismillah hi wa barakatillah

But this is about the dua for opening your fast. Not just eating.

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:naraz: i hope by the end of ramzan someone will be kind enough to answer this or may be on next ramzan

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I thought I did answer it?
That’s the dua for making intention to fast. It is not the dua for breaking fast. Therefore its not made up and its not bidaat.

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:wsalam:

Anyone who gives something a classification other than what is meant for it then that is bid’a …

If people are calling the statement of this phrase bid’a purely because it is not in hadith then many things we do become bid’a - so they who call it a bid’a are themselves in danger of commiting a bid’a … Now here is why this is not bid’a.

  1. This phrase is not a du’a …
  2. it translates to this … "I swear an intention that tomorrow is a fast from the month of Ramadan

It is a statement of intention.

I have actually been reading this since childhood …

Niyah of the fast is a required condition of fasting if you read fiqh of sayyam you will see this … Niyah as you all know can be done in any language so long as you understand the statement of niyah … In fact niyah can be done with the heart and no statement is even necessary, however there is no harm in making intention with a vocalised statement.

If it is true that this is not found in the ahadith at all then reciting this statement with the belief that it is a Sunnah makes it bid’a … But if it is recited to articulate an intention without believing it is a Sunnah then there can be nothing but good in having it … as it facilitates the niyah which is required for the fast.

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@Thornewood9

Your post #6](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=6) is spot on …

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People please note for future instances of bid'a claims that givng something a classification other than what is meant for it is the criterion ... In other words if something is not in ahadith and it is being done then that does not automatically become bid'a ... Unless people are doing it whilst thinking it is a hadith. In which case they attribute to it the classification of Sunnah when it should really be mub'a ... Often certain acts do not need to stop being done but merely the intention behind them needs to be adjusted. Hopefully this will ensure no one falls in to bid'a themselves ... Because to wrongfully call something bid'a is in fact givnig the wrong classification for a thing which is itself a bid'a ...

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first of all thanks for replying :k:, secondly what i understand from all above is that its not a dua, one can make fast by just intention and if we consider reading that what we knew was dua of starting and ending our fast as a must like without reading it our fast will not start nor end (this is what i was taught) then i twill be surely bid’a, right.

few people also argued there is no such thing as 3 ashra of ramzan, 1- rehmat, 2-magfrat, 3-nijat :confused: can you please tell if this is true or not

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also i want to know this one thing. The meaning of dua is this "I make intention to keep fast tomorrow in the month of Ramadhan."
so why does it says i make intention to keep fast **tomorrow **in the month of ramzan while we are making intention to fast on the current day not the next day

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Peace sister sweetequation

Good question ... Although the Islamic date begins after maghrib and technically the niyah is made on the same "day" as the fast. In actual fact when the word ghadan is used it means the next morning throughout the day. Eating is done typically in the night and halted before imsak which occurs before Fajr - so just like in English when we say tomorrow we mean the next amount of daylight so in kind this is what is meant here ... ghadan meaning the following day after this night is over.

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And yes that is true … if people believe that reciting that phrase is a must and must be done in that way then they are giving it a prescription that has not been given to it by our authorities - then it certainly is a bid’a. But to recite it without that understanding and it helps confirm an intention of fasting then it can only be a good thing.

The three 10 night stages of Ramadan is from a few documented ahadith - they are considered weak but not fabricated. Taking fazdail from weak ahadith is permissible - if there is an opinion that taking fazdail from weak ahadith is not allowed then that opinion is not from the 4 schools of the Ahl-us-Sunnah Wa-l Jama’ - traditional Hanbalis have the strictest view of weak ahadith and stricter than them are the Wahabis and in turn the Salafis.

In fact most of the ahadith we have are weak. Only a few are classified as fabricated - There are not many more that are considered Sahih by all groups. Then there are many that are considered sound and Sahih by at least one group and the majority are in fact weak at varying degrees. If we leave weak ahadith altogether we inevitably alter the tradition of Islam.

Disclaimer - I am not making these statements I am only echoing the statements of the ulema of these areas and Allah (SWT) Knows Best.

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^ :) thank you