Condition of Sikh shrines in Pakistan

When Pakistan raises voice in favor of a Sikh majority nation, blla blla…here is a report on the condition of Sikh shrines in Pakistan.

http://www.jammu-kashmir.com/insights/insight990525.html

Islamic Pakistan Proceeds to Annex Sikh Gurdwaras

The Archaeological Department of Pakistan had conducted a survey of the Sikh historical gurdwaras soon after the 1947 Partition. It had listed as many as 130 important historical gurdwaras. Detailed information about these gurdwaras was later incorporated in the book “Sikh Shrines in West Pakistan” by Khan Mohammed Waliullah Khan and published by the Department of Archaeology, Govt. of Pakistan in 1962. These shrines include 28 gurdwaras built in the sacred memory of Guru Nanak Devji - Gurdwara Janam Asthan, Nankana Sahib; Gurdwara Sachcha Sauda; Gurdwara Parija Sahib, Hassan Abdal; GUrdwara Chaki Sahib, Eminabad; Gurdwara Darbar Sahib, Kartarpur; Gurdwara Bairi Sahib; Sialkot, etc. One gurdwara, Janam Asthan Guru Ram Das, Lahore, marks the memory of the fourth Guru, Sri Ram Das. Eight gurdwaras, including Gurdwara Budhu Ka Awa, Lahore; Samadh of Guru Arjan Dev; and Gurdwara Haft Madar, Sheikhupura are in the sacred memory of the fifth Guru, Sri Arjan Devji. There are twelve gurdwaras in the memory of the sixth Guru, Guru Hargobind ji.

Each of these gurdwaras has its own property in the form of agricultural land and buildings. Such land had been donated by the Sikh devotees from time to time for the maintenance and upkeep of these historical qurdwaras. Some of these gurdwaras thus have thousands of acres of land. The property of these gurdwaras is worth hundreds of crores of Rupees. This property went under the control of the Waqf Board after Partition and has since then been systematically misused and misappropriated. Except very few gurdwaras, where Sikh pilgrims from India are allowed to visit in the form of Jathas on religious/historical occasions, not a Rupee has been spent on the maintenance and upkeep of other gurdwaras by the Waqf Board. Sikh devotees, who have acquired foreign nationalities and could visit some of the gurdwaras (beyond access to Indian Sikhs), have come back with horrifying accounts These gurdwaras are not only in a bad state of disrepair but have been systematically desecrated by local residents who use them as shelter for domestic animals and as ground for Sun drying dung cakes, Shops have been set up in gurdwara premises and the essential routine of prayers is not being followed. These grand sites marking significant events in Sikh history are today hut lifeless and decrepit buildings.

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If some person will leave his/her house (and more mainly some plot) unattended for a year in Pakistan, it will be used by my neighbors as a garbage-place and some land mafia may sell it too. This is the condition for big cities like Lahore.

Most gurdwaras are located in country-side (rural areas) and as many of them have not visited by anyone for years so it is not strange to find them in this condition. The Sikhs must pay thanks to God that they were not captured by some Land-Mafia on permanent basis otherwise it must have took years to get them back.

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I heard the opposite, according to Sikhs who visited, the gurdwars were relatively well kept.. But yeah, I still support Sikh Liberation from Indian terrorism:)

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Generally Pakis have a lot of tolerance and respect for Sikhism, I think what you are saying is exaggerated, Hindu saazish hai, Sikhs are pretty happy in Pakistan.

Insha'Allah nothing like what happened to Harmindar Sahib in India by the Hindu goverment will happen in Pakistan, and Khalistan (east Punjab and few other Indian states) will be freed from Hindu tyranny.

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is there any sikhs in pakistan army?

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Yes, a few. The rest voluntarily imposed the ethnic cleansing on them and fled.

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thats a very gud question, never think about that though…

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you always hear the opposite, is not your fault

Re the Sikh Liberation…you must talk to the PM and Army Chief of India (Both are Sikhs). Let us see if they become your allies!

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^
They are not Sikhs, they are Khatris.

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What is a Khatri
Ive never heard of that

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Khatri is a caste. There are castes in Sikhs too. All the Sikh gurus were Khatris. Kahtri is a changed version of ‘Kshtriya’. The General Jagjit Singh Arora who made Pakistan surrender in Bangladesh is an Arora. There are Jatts and there are Rajputs too. There are also Sheduled Caste Sikhs. But as a religion they folow the edicts of the Guru Granth Sahib, wer the Turban and follow the 5 K’s. Kangha, Kachha, Kesh, Kirpan and Kardha. To understand more about Sikhs and their relogion visit the site

http://www.sikh-history.com/

Read and you’ll come to know about the Sikh love for Muslims and how much they suffered at the hands of the Mughals.

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There are many old mosques in pakistan which are in dilapidated states too...
not ordinary mosques but historical mosques too...
the most imp being the badshahi mosque in lahore isnt an example of arhaelogical restoration, it's state is ever worsening and ver little attn is paid to its mainetnance. Teh Mahabat Khan mosque in Peshawar is in an even worse condition...

a report can be colored in any way possible, it's upto a readers mindframe what he/she makes of it...

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Well, with such well informed Indians as you, who needs to hear anything else! Not your fault your Indian afterall.
Sure, I support the assasination of both your PM and Army Chief for the sake of Sikh liberation. Damn traitors.. Indian propaganda even got to them.

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Well thats why I was wondering since every Sikh I ever met is a Jutt

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..mostly because their beard is same length as yours..or…perhaps they are the first one to get beaten in US and England for the crimes/terrorism committed by the Pakis.

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Kshtriya is a old (but actual) term for Khatri that is a word used in most areas of Punjab for Business-men (That is Lala in some parts of India). The majority of Sikhs are farmers, transporters and......

Some tribes of Jutts are khatris too. It is a long and discussion, just a wastage of time.

The world Sikh and Jutt have same meaning as the big majority of Sikhs are Jutts. Khatris are mostly business-men, where as Jutts are mostly farmers or transporters. Khatris are directed towards civil jobs, whereas Jutts can be found in army. The politics of Punjab involves Khatri and Jutt groups as well. There is a huge distinction between the two.

No Jutt (or any other farmer) can ever make it to a level that a Khatri may achieve, though they are both Sikhs.

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Good entertaining post.

Vo kya bolte hein…khisiani billi khamba noche.

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Sikhs assassinated a few persons and that was well after the worst scenario in Punjab, where poor Jutts were killed in their homes and fields. Khatris and Indian government had managed to kill thousands of poor Jutts (Sikhs) that were just useless and harmless to them, and now they claim themselves to be secular...

In dedication to the souls of poor Sikhs who were killed, One Poet has used much better words in his poem.

Ub ke hum bichre to shaed khawabon mein milein
Jaise sookhe hue phool kitaboon mein milein

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Why waste my breath in entertaining you with intelect, when dangling a shiny new spoon in your face could have done the trick;)
And its not vo kya “bolte” hein, its vo kya kehthai hain… Learn to speak for god sakes..