I know keeping girlfriend will destroy the family and so on but what if we were just friends secretly were no one knew. this way we will we will stay togethr until marraige and we can garentee we wont perform any zinna. are there any cases in the old times of love .
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We advise you to get married to a righteous, religiously-committed woman who will help you adhere to your religion and encourage you to adhere to the laws of Allaah, who will look after your children and bring them up with good morals and religious commitment. Give up this woman who agrees to go out with a man who is a stranger to her (a non-mahram) and meet him and talk to him; if she agrees to do immoral actions now then what is going to prevent her from continuing to do so in the future?
Why are the people who are answering this question so quick to blame the girl without even knowing the role of the girl in this whole thing? The guy is told to go marry a righteous girl as if the girl he is with is the devil incarnate tempting him to do bad things? Excuse me for stereotyping but usually its the girl who keeps her head and its the guy whos going for sex and she’s the one who doesnt even do it without commitment. Why dont the mullahs say that the guy will stray after marriage? I mean he’s involved in this whole mess too, not just the girl but yet it’s the girl who is bad and develish and has no morals and stuff and the guy is told to marry a “good” girl and the assumption is that he will never stray.
I know I probably make no sense but this thing is really affecting me bad.
It would have been interesting to see the same moulvi saheb answer this had it been the girl who asked this question. He would probably implore the girl to find a righteous gentleman and get married instead of wasting time with a flirt.
It would be more interesting to see the moulvi saheb give a course of action to the girl in the question. Pure marries pure and adulterer marries adulterer so why doesnt that apply to the man in this question? Who would the moulvi saheb tell the girl to marry?
Well, at this point, seems none of them is adulterer so the question should not arise, don't you think. I mean, the guy is very clear in his question "and we can garentee we wont perform any zinna". Moulvi saheb is probably just looking out for his/her emotional attachments.
I have read many articles from this site and to me, the scholar seems biased. I would really not recommend islam-qa.com to anyone. You can see the same issue discussed on another website understanding-islam.com(the only sane site on the web). Here’s the link to the article:
I hope after reading it you won’t feel as disturbed. :flower1:
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*Originally posted by Sarah Splendor: *
It would be more interesting to see the moulvi saheb give a course of action to the girl in the question. Pure marries pure and adulterer marries adulterer so why doesnt that apply to the man in this question? Who would the moulvi saheb tell the girl to marry?
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I think they usually tell them to REPENT first (stop all haram relationships) then look for a righteous person to marry.
I personally think he would have given the same advice if it had been a woman.
Its just generic advice I think, something along the lines of "why marry someone who's pushing you to do wrong". The girl would probably have gotten the same advice if she had asked the question ("Find a righteous guy who isn't so tempted to wrong, cuz if he's tempted now, there is nothing to say he wont be later").
Sara, You are waisting time in asking questions to these so called religious scholars. These morons don’t know Jack. it is only common sense that you need to follow. as long as Duties and Rights are undersottod by both and they stay true to their commitments, male and female are equal, they may have slightly different responssiblities.
Sara,, You are waisting time in asking questions to these so called religious scholars. These morons don't know Jack. it is only common sense that you need to follow. as long as Duties and Rights are undersottod by both and they stay true to their commitments, male and female are equal, they may have slightly different responssiblities.
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Thank you scholar sher sahib. All posts in this forum are relatively incomplete until they're blessed with your scholarly/correct views. You're the only one around with a logical train of thought eh?
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*Originally posted by ammarr: *
Thank you scholar sher sahib. All posts in this forum are relatively incomplete until they're blessed with your scholarly/correct views. You're the only one around with a logical train of thought eh?
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Ammar, can someone shed some light on this story and tell me if that was how arab muslims treated women.
Anas said, 'When Allah's Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there yearly in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet. He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, ‘Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.' He repeated this thrice. The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, ‘Muhammad (has come).’ (Some of our companions added, “With his army.”) We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the booty was collected. Dihya came and said, ‘O Allah's Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.’ The Prophet said, 'Go and take any slave girl.' He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, ‘O Allah's Apostles! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.' So the Prophet said, 'Bring him along with her.’ So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, ‘Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.’ Anas added: The Prophet then manumitted her and married her.”
Please don't take me wrong, I don't mean to offend anyone.
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What's the purpose of quoting the hadeeth in this thread? This isn't the 7th century you nugget.
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This is a thread to discuss "condemning the women" and it is relevent here. If you can exlain it better Please do so. I am sure it would be appreciated. there is no need to get upset
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Sher, what exactly is your question? You've got to learn to be a little clearer..
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Sorry you have to go back to my post which associated with your's.
Obioously, my qestion was if women were treated fairly. were they enslaved after killing their men in war and distributed among invaders.