Concept of Hell

I was having a discussion with some friends a while ago and it was about torturing human being one of the worst things. Then the discussion became about Hell and how the Qur’aan says individuals will be burnt alive and hot water will be poured on them for eternity. It would be hard for a non-Muslim to comprehend an idea since Allah (swt) is the all loving and all forgiving.. So is Hell like a metaphor?

I was told that phenomenological language is used in the Qur’aan to describe Hell and give us a sense of its horror since we do not live in that reality.

Is there anything more supporting that? Or is there a whole different concept?

Thanks n00bs, may Allah (swt) bless you with the opportunity to create and have many babies.

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It is true that the Holy Quran mentions hell as the abode of evil-doers and even depicts its horrors, but it must be borne in mind that according to the Holy Quran both heaven and hell are places for the perpetual advancement of man to higher and higher stages. The Holy Quran says on one occasion: "Verily you shall all be surely transformed from state to state" (ch. 84: v. 19). The whole mankind is addressed in these words and accordingly, as those in paradise shall make perpetual advancement, those in hell will not be suffering fruitless torments. On the other hand, the torments of hell will be the means of purging them of the evil effects of their deeds done in this life. This is the only philosophical explanation of hell, and this explanation has been given by no other book but the Holy Quran. It is the Quran only which teaches that heaven and hell grow out of a man; that a heavenly or hellish life begins in this world and that the spiritual fruits of good or evil deeds done in this life assume a manifest form in the next. The fire of hell is no other than the fire of sins as the Holy Quran says: "The fire of the wrath of God burned on account of sins which rise above the hearts." The origin of the fire of hell is, therefore, in the sins which a man commits in this life, that he prepares a hell in which he will find himself in the next.
The Holy Quran, as I have already said, does not teach that those in hell shall suffer everlasting torments; and this is an important consideration which conclusively settles the question that hell is meant for the advancement of man and for his purification. There is no doubt that the abiding of evil-doers in hell is mentioned in some verses of the Holy Quran to be for "abad " which sometimes means prospective eternity, but " abad" also signifies a long time. And there are numerous passages in the Holy Quran showing that those in hell shall ultimately be taken out. Thus, in ch. 6: v. 129, the Quran says: "God said, Verily the fire is your resort to dwell therein unless thy Lord will it otherwise, verily, thy Lord is wise and knowing." On another occasion, those in hell are spoken of as "staying therein for years" (ch. 78: v. 23). The original word is "Ahqab" which is the plural of "huqub", meaning a year or years, or seventy or eighty years, or a long time (see Lanes Arabic Lexicon).

The statement that the evil-doers will abide in hell only for a limited number of years shows clearly that, according to the Holy Quran, the torments of hell are not everlasting, for infinite time cannot be measured by a finite number of years. Again in ch. 101: v. 6, hell is called a "mother" of those who shall go into it. The use of this word is, I think, the clearest evidence as to the true nature of hell as described in the Holy Quran. What is meant is that, as a child is brought up by the mother, so those in hell will be brought up in that place for a new life, the life of perpetual advancement in paradise.

It is true that the Holy Quran also speaks of hell as a place of torment or tortures, but these torments according to the Holy Book are remedial. Just as a patient has to devour bitter medicines and undergo operations and amputations which are most painful, but which are undoubtedly the only steps which can restore him to health; so also it is with torments of hell. They are not only the natural consequences of the poison of sins, but, at the same time, the torments are the most necessary steps to undo the effect of the poison and breath into a person a new life in which he must go on making unending progress. Thus hell is also a manifestation of the mercy of God, though of different kind, from heaven.

The one, hell, is a place for restoring health to those who have destroyed it by their own actions in this life, while the other, heaven, is a place for the advancement of those who enter into the other life with their spiritual faculties unvitiated. In fact, so clear, is the teaching of the Holy Quran on this point that none but a most superficial reader could overlook it. Again and again, the Holy Quran speaks of the workers of iniquity as blind, deaf, dumb, dead, meaning of course that they themselves have wasted their spiritual faculties, and accordingly, before they can make any spiritual advancement in the attainment of that highest goal of the human soul, the union of God, they must be subjected to the operations which should restore the action of those faculties.

In clearer words still, the Holy Quran tells us that "those who are blind in this life shall find themselves blind in the next," which means that as they did not make use of the opportunities, given to them in this life, to use their spiritual faculties, they will find themselves devoid of these faculties in the next, and will palpably feel the pain and anguish which are the necessary result of their loss and which they were unable to feel in this life because of their engrossment in worldly things. But the mercy of God will soon take them by hand and they will, after passing through all the stages through which it is necessary to pass to regain the use of the lost faculties, attain the real object of their lives. They will be purged of all uncleanliness, for this is necessary to attain to a perfect union with the Divine Being who is the source of all purity.

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Generally a well constructed article, but there are some dogmatic differences in this from the main core of Islamic beliefs. Such that in some cases true enough some people will be purged of sin and sent to paradise, however in other cases some people will never see paradise, but it still does not mean forever in a sense to our understanding. According to some the shortest duration spent in Hell will be from the beginning of time to the Day of Judgement.

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I have always been wondering how all cultures have thier own concept of Hell.

In the East hell is supposed to be hotter more tormenting than any desert, yet in the west cultures like those of scandinavia believed hell to be colder than the coldest tundra...

I am certain there is a Hell and hope to avoid it but likelihood is i'll be there dancing in the flames for aeons.

Allah protect us all from the flames of Hell.

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So you can be.. transferred from Hell to Heaven? Will the time that passes by be the same as it is on Earth, or will it be different since it’s a whole different reality? Sorry for so many questions lol.

InshaAllah we will be saved. The thread is to see if we will actually be dancing in flames for aeons, or if that it’s used as a metaphor. Hopefully it’s a metaphor, then we’re saved, I guess :hehe:

By the way, do we have any sort of belief similar to purgatory, like the Catholics?

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i want to go to the hell that mother theresa's in along with all the nonmuslims that were all sacrificing and gave selflessly to humankind, hoping for that one, we'll see, i wouldn't want to go to heaven if they're not there.

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Quran has used metaphors and example at many places, I hope from the mercy of Allah that hell is metaphorical and has been used to keep us all on the right path. But I also hope that heaven is not metaphorical and it is real because I am so much looking forward to get those hooran a jannat and live happily ever after in their company. :D

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SO DO I! :D

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A woman died and St. Peter was giving her tour of hell because she needed to decide her own punishment. She saw Elvis Presley holding hand of mother Theresa and sitting with her. She questioned why is Mother Theresa being punished . She was told in this case Mother Theresa is not being punished but Elvis is .

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ok so mother theresa is in hell but she's not being punished. great, so hell it is.

what exactly is heaven supposed to be like then. is it endless sex with countless heavenly beings and total enjoyment? i don't know why i was thinking heaven and hell would be something beyond what any human being could imagine just like how the Concept of God is usually thought of by many

in Judaism, a jewish friend of mine had said that all are children of God and that all eventually get to heaven nonjew or jew.

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I don't know who ever said they're going to hell for sure.

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now don't be so selfless ; )

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Peace Nisha25

I would not wish hell on even an enemy. What I believe in to be true is because I believe the text where such a notion comes from is true based on the parameters that I can test. Such as linguistic prowess, unmatched accuracy and preservation through time, etc ... For me when the Qur'an states that "it is the Word of God" I believe it, so when it talks about Hell I believe that too.

About the fact that you want to be in the same place as all those non-Muslims who were sacrificing and who gave selflessly to humankind, I guess you are comparing yourself to them. In order to be in the same place means you would need to be judged as they were judged. So with this in mind would you consider it accurate to say that you aspire to be like the recently declared Saint ... Mother Theresa. Needless to say that she is an example of modern times, there are many people far greater in human feats than she was through History and many of which were Muslim. My question is why do you want to be like "non-Muslims that were sacrificing ...." why not like "anyone regardless of religion that was sacrificing and giving etc ..."

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Very enlightening. Most religions speak of Hell as eternal damnation etc. From the above, it seems there is hope, even in Hell. As a non-Muslim, I found this this passage to be very useful.

Thanks!

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So you want to go heaven only for Hooran? I hope the Hoor is a metaphor as well. :grumpy:

Few days back, I read somewhere that a man converted to Islam only to get the 72 virgins in Heaven. Such a sick thing.

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Thanks Psyah

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I remember someone else told me hoors are a metaphor as well. I hope not :hehe:

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I hope not. :smiley:


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no i was not comparing myself to them. but i would love to be in the company of such people in Hell being a nonmuslim and all and Hell doesn’t look all that bad going by EyEsOnSkY](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/members/eyesonsky.html)'s post on hell and heaven. I could never compare myself to such great human beings…come on who wouldn’t want to spend eternity with such greats. it would be a heavenly experience for me

yes anyone regardless of religion :stuck_out_tongue: but it’s the nonmuslims that are sent to hell even if they are selfless, all sacrificing or people that try to be good human beings right?