concept of God in hinduism

Dear Don Brad, Pls do not expect some ready-made answers to your enquiry. And I assure you that Hindu religion is not bonded to defense or definitions, and you will see that many Hindus will talk from your side.

Ahm Brahmasmi, I am the Brahma…the whole theory ends here. As I told you earlier that God exists in all three, that is Noun, Object and the Action.
It starts very interestingly, that you find God in anything and everything, and at last you find God in yourself, you become one entity with everything and all things, may be this the stage that is ‘Ahm Brahmasmi’ At this stage your are one entity with the whole universe.
So that poor monkey, and cockroach is also Ahm Brahmasmi……Be careful.

If everything and anything is one entity and is God, why Hindus differentiate people of low cast by birth? You must raise this question. Frankly I will not have any answer.

Anyhow if Hindus pray monkeys, does it disturb you in your personal life?

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what explanations you have about the people who did good and got unpleasant results? and if you think that God does not have the authority of punishing or rewarding, then why do you believe in God or in other words you are the creator and destroyer of your own destiny.
if you have the authority of doing good or bad then to whom you are praying which is given in yajurveda,
"lead us to the good path and remove the sins that makes us stray and wander." [yajurveda 40:16]
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so you're saying allah is responsible for everything - good, bad, rewards & punishments. if that's the case, why does allah allow commission of sins in the first place? if people don't feel responsible for their own actions, you end up with the kind of mess that suicide bombers cause!

BTW I did npot say god does not have authority. I said humans are responsible for their actions. the two are not the same.

there's no such thing as yajurveda 40:16 - where did you get that from? whichever website you got that from has committed a typo.

however we do pray to God to lead us to to the good path and remove the sins that make us stray and wander. Notice we are not asking God to take the blame for our sins - we're seeking God's help in not straying from good. it just reinforces what I said.

Once again, good questions. keep at it.

balram, Allah allows commission of sins to test us. If want a detailed answer then read the last ten posts in the thread Origin of Religion, page 4.

Youre right the questions are good but I don't see good answers yet.

axiom so only muslims will get answeres from god others will
not since they are praying to false god or gods?
does islam accept pre-destination and that cant be chnaged regardless what you beieve?

rvikz, my dear, why don't you understand. Islam is not the topic here. Its, concept of God in Hinduism. Why is Islam being dragged into it. If you don't have an answer then wait someone else to post an answer, rather than changing the topic. Thanks

They call and name the One, Indra, Mitra, Varuna, Agni and the beautiful
Garutman. The Real is One, though wise sages (perceive in their minds) and
name It variously."
-- Rig-Veda I-164-46

"The wise sages shape (and symbolize) the One, with their words and
expressions into many forms and manifestations."
-- Rig-Veda X-114-5

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rvikz, my dear, why don't you understand. Islam is not the topic here. Its, concept of God in Hinduism. Why is Islam being dragged into it. If you don't have an answer then wait someone else to post an answer, rather than changing the topic. Thanks
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Dear Axiom
What difference does it make....having a single or 90 millon gods...
you still have to thrieve for your livelihood....
and reg concept of god in hinduism...We worship the soul be it in any form...and believe those are incarnations of the same god....
that explains our belief in life after death too...
We believe the soul never dies ,the body does.....

but ,in a nutshell, what difference does it make................

devil123, it makes a lot of difference if a Hindu worships 90 million gods while their scripture asks them to worship one God. You are indirectly saying that it doesn't make a difference if the Hindus follow their scriptures or not. If this is the case then what is the use of the hindu holy books.
And when you say that you worship a soul, whose soul do you worship.

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devil123, it makes a lot of difference if a Hindu worships 90 million gods while their scripture asks them to worship one God. You are indirectly saying that it doesn't make a difference if the Hindus follow their scriptures or not. If this is the case then what is the use of the hindu holy books.
And when you say that you worship a soul, whose soul do you worship.
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axiom what matters is what you do in your life . what do you do
axiom pray to one god 24 hrs a day? do you need any special privilage
for praying to one god?does it make superior ? does it make you walk on water?doe one's IQ inversly proportional to # of gods?

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devil123, it makes a lot of difference if a Hindu worships 90 million gods while their scripture asks them to worship one God. You are indirectly saying that it doesn't make a difference if the Hindus follow their scriptures or not. If this is the case then what is the use of the hindu holy books.
And when you say that you worship a soul, whose soul do you worship.
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does anyone know who he worships...its just a belief....
Scriptures aren't proof for anyone's existence.....
they were written by human beings like me and you...
do they mention anything about dinosuars...But they did exist ...

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axiom what matters is what you do in your life .
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Worshipping God is also what we do in our life. It might not matter at all in this life. But it does matter a lot in the life after death. It will matter a lot when our actions are going to be judged, and yes at that time it will make me superior.

Devil123
then why do the hindus have scriptures if they are not meant to be followed. As far as the existense of dinosaurs is concerned, if the scriptures don't say anything about dinosaurs then it doesn't mean they say dinosaurs donot exist. It doesn't contradict to any religion in any way.

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Worshipping God is also what we do in our life. It might not matter at all in this life. But it does matter a lot in the life after death. It will matter a lot when our actions are going to be judged, and yes at that time it will make me superior.

Devil123
then why do the hindus have scriptures if they are not meant to be followed. As far as the existense of dinosaurs is concerned, if the scriptures don't say anything about dinosaurs then it doesn't mean they say dinosaurs donot exist. It doesn't contradict to any religion in any way.
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Why do you have to follow some stone age scriptures....who have no relevance and by no means effect your doings....where aren't their any scriptures for animals or other creatures...after all they also are inventions of the same creator as per you....
and don't tell me that all muslims follow their scriptures and does who don't are leading a miserable life.....
and it's my view that people who cannot make their own decisions normally follow these scriptures

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Why do you have to follow some stone age scriptures....who have no relevance and by no means effect your doings....where aren't their any scriptures for animals or other creatures...after all they also are inventions of the same creator as per you....
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Scriptures are to be followed because they are the commands of the entity that created us. If they aren't followed then it means we don't believe in God itself(which opens another topic:Is there God or not). The hindus, just like Muslims and christians believe in the existence of God/gods. So if the Hindu scriptures ask them to worship a single God which cannot have any shape or image then why do hindus ignore their own scriptures and worship so many gods. And animals don't have scriptures because they have not been given the power to differentiate between right and wrong.

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and don't tell me that all muslims follow their scriptures and does who don't are leading a miserable life.....
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I absolutely agree with this. Infact, nowadays it is commonly seen that Muslims who don't follow their scriptures live excellent luxurious lives. But that is where the concept of life after death comes into consideration.
A Muslim who doesnot follow his scriptures might live a good life but he will definately live in Hell in the life here after.

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and it's my view that people who cannot make their own decisions normally follow these scriptures
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Well in my view the people who cannot make decisions donot follow scriptures because they are not sure whether they should follow them or not.

From your posts it seems that you are trying to say that the hindu scriptures are incorrect and it doesn't matter if anyone follows them or not. Is this what you mean?

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Scriptures are to be followed because they are the commands of the entity that created us. If they aren't followed then it means we don't believe in God itself(which opens another topic:Is there God or not). The hindus, just like Muslims and christians believe in the existence of God/gods. So if the Hindu scriptures ask them to worship a single God which cannot have any shape or image then why do hindus ignore their own scriptures and worship so many gods. And animals don't have scriptures because they have not been given the power to differentiate between right and wrong.

I absolutely agree with this. Infact, nowadays it is commonly seen that Muslims who don't follow their scriptures live excellent luxurious lives. But that is where the concept of life after death comes into consideration.
A Muslim who doesnot follow his scriptures might live a good life but he will definately live in Hell in the life here after.

Well in my view the people who cannot make decisions donot follow scriptures because they are not sure whether they should follow them or not.

From your posts it seems that you are trying to say that the hindu scriptures are incorrect and it doesn't matter if anyone follows them or not. Is this what you mean?
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yes ...i meant the same,but for scriptures of all the religions...