I am told by my Muslim friends that Islam as a religion is simple to follow. So as an outsider to Islam - can somebody explain me
If the message in Quran is simple then why is there trouble interpreting it? (for eg - scholars are still arguing over whether music is haram or halal. Or for eg a thread on simple matter like cleansing yourself before offering prayers runs into pages)
Is the religion complicated or people complicate themselves?
and..PS - no Islam or any other religion bashing in this thread…I would be grateful if you can keep it clean
it is very simple if u wish to really understand....
but if all u want to do is criticize, and pull things just so u can find a fault somewhere, u can make it as complicated as u like....
the Quran gives an example of the Children of Israel, when Allah ordered them trough Moosa (as), to slaughter a cow....
the order was plain and simple, slaughter a cow as a sacrifice in the name of Allah....
but they wished to complicate the matter....
they went ahead, and asked the color of the cow, the size of it, whether it shud be fat or thin, or young or old and all the useless issues....
this is how simple matters r turned into complicated ones....
the incident of the cow is covered in 3-4 verses, but the longest chapter in the Quran has been named "The Cow" after this incident just to show the significance of this story and the moral that it yields....
Islam is not a standard set of rules that everybody has to accept. As long as the opinion such as music being halal or haram is based on Quran and Sunnah it is correct. So both opinions are correct from Islam since both have evidence to back it. What matters is which opinion are you convinced of as an individual. This requires sincerity by not following the easiest or the opinion that suits you.
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the incident of the cow is covered in 3-4 verses, but the longest chapter in the Quran has been named "The Cow" after this incident just to show the significance of this story and the moral that it yields....
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hmm did God name it that?
that's not just an ordinary question but has to deal with religion as we know it today.. which reached us after a lot of 'human interaction'
Not everthing we received and started to practice was "divine writ".. much may only have been cultural practices and/or even pure myth transferred with the truth.
If everyone just lightened up and opened their minds and treated it more academically/analytically than so dogmatically, things would be much better and there'd be very little extremism or jingoism surrounding faith and more understanding amongst the believers.
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see, ppl of this type who bring up useless discussion r the ones who cause complications in religion....
they talk as if even the Quran has been changed....
if u wish to lean about Islam, stay away from such ppl who will bring in irrelevant discussions and try to confuse u....
they'll believe that homer's tales have been preserved perfectly well, word by word, but ppl were incapable of saving their religious books....
a) annonymous and therefore be unaturally bold in discussion and
b) not qualified to give rulings on Islam
you will find that such forums are littered with "mis-informationists".
Simply put, I could join a hindu forum as Ravi and add replies to serious religious matters in a way that is designed to cause confusion and take the debate off a different track - this happens on Gupshup a lot.
Also, because the whole set up is annonymous, people can get away with saying anything. The same debate had face to face would be a lot different.
they talk as if even the Quran has been changed....
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quit making false accusations.. all I pointed out was that naming of the Surah's were done later.. so to say that Qur'an intended to stress on "The Cow incident" in that chapter would be misleading.
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they'll believe that homer's tales have been preserved perfectly well, word by word, but ppl were incapable of saving their religious books....
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note it's homer's "tales".. I'll gladly accept all post Qur'anic literature as Bukhari's tales and Muslims' tales etc.. but when you forceably make it part of my religion.. i need to do my due diligence in separating fact from fantasy.. so should everyone else.
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PakistaniAbroad,
Instead of relying on suspicion and hearsay why don't you make your belief concrete by taking up the challenge of the Qur'an and try to disprove it? Produce an ayah like it if you are truthful.
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what have u been smoking? who said i'm out to disprove the Qur'an?
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If you can't then you will have to accept and call for Islam.
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it's not all black and white like kids would want to believe.. there's tons of grey and it's not all pretty.. someone gotta do the dirty job of telling lil kids there is no Santa Claus and there are no winged horses..
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Not everthing we received and started to practice was "divine writ".. much may only have been cultural practices and/or even pure myth transferred with the truth.
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I thought you were talking about the Qur'an but I see that your talking about ahadith.