Comparison of Pakistani economical growth and GNP under different rule

I believe there is lot of confusion amongst some regarding Pakistan GNP at market price: Well, I believe that people should first understand what GNP is. GNP is GDP plus and minus external income. GDP is total output of the country that includes real growth as well as inflationary growth. When Pakistan government says that the economy growth was 7 percent, it does not mean that GDP grown by 7 percent, it only means that real growth in GDP was 7 percent and rest in GDP growth is inflationary growth.

Suppose that real growth was 7 percent and inflationary growth was 8 percent, than GDP in rupees would grow by 1.07 multiply by 1.08 = 1.1556 or 15.56 percent. Pre capita income is GNP divided by total population of the country, that includes men, women and childern of all ages (including old, young and infants, regardless of they are earning anything or not).

Now if rupees did not devalued in dollar terms, than growth in dollar GDP would be 15.56 percent too. If economy is weak and growth is low, than rupee would normally devalue and sometime it can devalue more than inflation, thus it is possible that there is real growth in the economy, still in dollar term GDP could declines. GNP is more important than GDP as it affects people living more, though GNP figure more or less follows GDP.

Here are some figures of Pakistan GNP growth during different periods under different rulers.

http://www.statpak.gov.pk/depts/fbs/statistics/national_accounts/table2.pdf

Pakistan budget comes in June and financial year starts 1st of July and ends on 30th June. Thus, performance of Pakistan during:

Ayub rule 1961 – 1969: (8 years- West Pakistan figures)

[All figures are for West Pakistan only. I am quoting figures for 8 years as I am using data available on above official site. Nevertheless, GDP growth for year 1959-60 was one of the lowest for Pakistan ever at 0.88 percent. Real GDP growth for years 1958 -1961 were:

http://www.statpak.gov.pk/depts/fbs/statistics/national_accounts/table1.pdf

1958-59 growth was 5.48 percent
1959-60 growth was 0.88 percent
1960-61 growth was 4.89 percent

Thus overall effect of these figures if included in final average figures of Ayub era, it would make Ayub era average growth lower. That is, growth from 1958-1969 was lower than growth from 1961-1969 I am quoting]

Total starting GNP July 1961: Rs 20.03 billion = 4.21 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 4.76 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 91.

Total end GNP June 1969: Rs 41.95 billion = 8.81 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 9.91 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 152.

That means in dollar terms, Pakistan GNP grew by an average of 9.67 percent a year and per capita income increased by an average of 6.62 percent a year during 8 years of Ayub rule (1961-69).

Yahya rule 1969 – 1972: (3 years -West Pakistan figures)

Total starting GNP July 1969: Rs 41.95 billion = 8.81 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 9.91 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 152.

Total end GNP June 1972: Rs 54.37 billion = 11.42 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 4.76 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 184.

That means in dollar terms, Pakistan GNP grew by an average of 9.03 percent a year and per capita income increased by an average of 6.58 percent a year during 3 years of Yahya rule.

[Note: Growth figure during Yahya rule is high, because of very high real GDP growth of 9.79 percent for year 1969-70, first year of Yahya rule. It was 15.15 percent in dollar terms. Real Growth rate for 1970-71 was 1.23 percent and 1971-72 was 2.32 percent]

Bhutto rule 1972 - 1977: (5 years)

Total starting GNP July 1972: Rs 54.37 billion = 11.42 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 4.76 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 184.

Total end GNP June 1977: Rs 156.5 billion = 15.79 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 9.91 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 213.

That means in dollar terms, Pakistan GNP grew by an average of 6.69 percent a year and per capita income increased by an average of 2.97 percent a year during 5 years of Bhutto rule.

Zia rule 1977 - 1988 (11 years)

Total starting GNP July 1977: Rs 156.5 billion = 15.79 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 9.91 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 213.

Total end GNP June 1988: Rs 704.48 billion = 40.03 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 17.6 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 395.

That means in dollar terms, Pakistan GNP grew by an average of 8.83 percent a year and per capita income increased by an average of 5.78 percent a year during 11 years of Zia rule.

Corrupt rule of BB and NS: 1988 - 1999. (11 years)

Total starting GNP June 1988: Rs 704.48 billion = 40.03 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 17.6 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 395.

Total end GNP June 1999: Rs 2912.83 billion = 62.25 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 46.79 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 468.

That means in dollar terms, Pakistan GNP grew by an average of 4.1 percent a year and per capita income increased by an average of 1.55 percent a year during 11 years of corrupts (BB and NS) rule.

[Note: By October 1999, dollar was already trading at around Rs 54.

This 11 year corrupt period was such that before this period started, Pakistan per capita income in dollar was higher than India, but at the end of this period, Pakistan dollar per capita income became lower than India. Now during last few years, Pakistan per capita dollar income has gone above India again.]

Musharraf rule 1999 - 2007 (8 years)

Total starting GNP June 1999: Rs 2912.83 billion = 62.25 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 46.79 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 468.

Total end GNP June 2006 (after 7 years) Rs 7864.48 billion = 131.6 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 59.76 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 847.

Total end GNP June 2007 is expected to be approximately Rs 8835 billion = 146 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 60.5 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 925.

That means in dollar terms, Pakistan GNP grew by an average of 11.24 percent a year and per capita income increased by an average of 8.89 percent a year during last 8 years of Musharraf rule, from 1999 - 2007.

**Effect of rebasing: **It is one off effect that increased the GDP base value for that particular year. It does not affect percentage growth figure or overall economy substantially. In most countries rebasing is done every 5 years.

For instance: rebasing in Pakistan was done in 2000. Here is effect of rebasing:

GNP for year ending June 1999 was Rs 2912.83 billion. GNP for year ending June 2000 was Rs 3778.15 billion.

That is an increase of 29.7 percent in GNP between 1999 and 2000. But actual real growth was 3.91 percent and inflationary growth was around 4 percent between year 1999-2000. Thus overall growth should have been around 8 percent in GDP.

Anyhow, if one takes 2000 as start year for President Musharraf rule, affect of rebasing of GNP gets discarded from the figures. Thus, here is what happened since 2000 to 2007 (7 years):

Total starting GNP June 2000: Rs 3778.15 billion = 72.98 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 51.77 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 531.

Total end GNP June 2007 is expected to be approximately Rs 8835 billion = 146 billion dollars (Ave ex rate for the yr Rs 60.5 to a dollar). It comes to per capita income of $ 925.

**That means in dollar terms, Pakistan GNP grew by an average of 10.41 percent a year and per capita income increased by an average of 8.25 percent a year during last 7 years of Musharraf rule, from 2000 – 2007 (that exclude rebasing affects) **

Thus, if one discards effect of rebasing, still the figures are as good as with effect of rebasing included. If one include expected next year growth, figures would become even better.

Expected total GNP by June 2008 is approximately Rs 10020 billion (if real growth for coming year is 7 percent and inflation is 6 percent) = 164 billion dollars (if Ave ex rate for the yr gets to Rs 61 to a dollar). That would be a rise of 13.4 percent in rupees or 12.3 percent in dollars (I believe that this increase is quite conservative, as most likely it could be higher).

President Musharraf period of rule gave fasted ever growth rate for Pakistan in dollar terms as well as in terms of real GNP and GDP growth rate. This period also represent Pakistan fasted per capita income growth rate in dollar terms as well as in real terms.

Now, I know that some would not understand that how come when growth is 7 percent, GNP would increase by 12.3 percent in dollars. Well, dollar GNP is actually rupees GNP converted to dollar. Rupees GNP increase has two components, one is real growth and other is inflationary growth. Normally rupees would devalue to take care of inflationary growth in the economy. But if economical growth and economical strength of a country become strong, as it happened during President Musharraf rule, rupee does not devalue and hence, dollar GNP grows faster.

Another thing many could not understand is that, when one talks about per capita income, that is not household income but it is per capita income. That means, if there are 10 people in a particular household (that includes olds, infants, earning and non-earning members of household), and their household income is average of the country, than it means their household income should be 10 times per capita income. That for Pakistan, in 2007 would be 9250 dollars a year or Rs 47000 per month household income if there are 10 people in the household with average per capita income.

Reality is that, there are people in Pakistan that are earning Rs 50,000 a month and their wife is also earning Rs 50,000 a month, but they have one kid and thus their household income is Rs 100,000 a month between 3 people. That is per capita income ofthe family is Rs 400 thousand or around 6667 dollars a year (household income is $20000 a year).

On the other hand, there are many who earn Rs 10,000 a month and their household do not have any other earner (most of the time intentionally as they do not let their wife go to work). On top of that, they would breed like rabbit and would have 15 children. They also look after their parents (who also bred like rabbit and saved no money, hence completely dependent on their kids). Thus with 19 people in household, their per capita is Rs 6315 per person a year (120000 divided by 19), or 105 dollars a year. Now, these people cry that they are poor and cannot afford to live.

What anyone can do about these rabbits as they are bound to stay poor whatever the condition of economy. Even if that would happen in USA, these rabbits would be poor and would be living on charity (Just imagine a guy with 15 kids and parent to look after, earning around 20000 dollars a year in USA with no other income, how would they live?). Unfortunately, Pakistan is a very poor and corrupt country with population of 160 million plus, but have less than 2 million tax payers, how can such country support rabbits breading like hell and have no skills to earn their living decently?

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Based on those figures it is clearly evident that under Musharraf has had achieved greater economic development and growth than under any previous government/regime since 1971 - at least. In fact the economic achievments under Musharraf are historic and monumental compared to others.

Though, it also appears that the 11 years of BB and Nawaz were actually worse economically for Pakistan than under ZAB in the 1970’s. I have got revise my opinion of ZAB accordingly. Compared to BB and Nawaz on the economic front at least, he was way, way better.

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Pakistan Shining :k:

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I have been talking with economist friends and they feel that Pakistan's economy may have reached a critical mass with the size of the middle class being c. 30 million people with incomes of $10,000/annum (Standard Charterd/SBP agree on this).

That is a sizable market in any terms, meaning investment will come in, these lot will spur consumer spending and prop up good growth rates.

The issue now is to develop politically, so as to become a stable nation to maximize the growth potential.

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so what does that mean to us in term of type of ‘government’ vs economy??? it means hum laaton ke bhoot hayn :hehe:

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English for the "burgers" amongst us?

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Why don't you post figures from 99-01, and 01-present?

That would be quite telling

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what is posted is not telling enough?

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the difference before 9/11 and after 9/11 in Mush's rule

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thats a diff topic isnt it, why dont you open a thread on it. although that may not be needed. I do recall people getting in detail about the overall economic progress and the part that aid has played in it. Maybe you missed it. search for it and you will find it. I think Sa1eem had posted a lot of info there.

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not quite, the post is about growth under diff govts

As many economists have said 9/11 was key to Pak's growth since then,

Thus it should be included, not hidden with everything else

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u mean $1,000 per annum?

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many economists have also said that it was the pre 9/11 policies of pak govt that served as an engine. they have also said that while 9/11 played a role, it was not the sole cause of the boom.

but as I noted, it was discussed in quite detail is a diff thread by sa1eem, maybe you can find it so it all does not have to be rehashed yet again. but we can then reference what was already covered in that thread to move ahead on that discussion

anyways its technically not pre and post 9/11 but before the aid arrived and how long it took to make an impact on economy overall, versus prior to that period. I dont recall aid arriving on 9/11 or even immediately afterwards, The topic of how long it takes for such aid to make wide impact is a whole diff issue.

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Sab acha hai :k:

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Sa1eem

would it be possible to break out performance year by year for BB and NS era. it would be good to see how they stack up against each other.

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Well, I believe that $ 10,000 per annum is not real dollar but dollar in purchasing power parity and that is good with respect to Pakistan past, but certainly not something to get satisfied. Nevertheless, I do not think that Pakistan economy has really got stable enough to sustain high growth unless it is properly monitored (actually this is true for all economies). I also believe that Pakistan economy is not monitored optimally and if that would happen, growth rate would become much better, could even reach over 10 percent sustainable real growth. That only means, Pakistan is doing very good, but potential is there to do better still.

Permament democracy and political development for good would only come when Country would achieve a certain level of literacy and economy; that at moment is far away thing. If political setup would come in near future with present situation, I believe that economy would suffer and in the end, there would be military interfearance again.

Some might question that. They might argue that Pakistan can live with even corrupt democracy, referring to countries that are poor but have some sort of corrupt democracy, like India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. Unfortunately people do not realise that Geopolitical situation of these countries and Pakistan is different.

Pakistan has conflict with a country that is 7 times more populated than Pakistan, has economy 6.5 times larger, defence spending 5 times more, with area 4 times bigger. On top of that, Pakistan has many destabilising factors within the country, that only army can tackle (Tribal area, Balochistan, so-called jihadi tanzeems, gun culture in almost all provinces of Pakistan, etc).

Because of such disparity with adversary (India) and prevaling local situations, Pakistan armed forces get involved in many areas and has increaseed the influence over the country. Politicians being corrupt lose all respect as well as legitimacy in the eyes of others, including armed forces and most in masses have no sympathy for them. Well, there are many factors that makes the situation in Pakistan such that army can move into government any time when there is wide spread corruption or mismanagement of Pakistan economy by politicians in power.

Only thing that can stop that interfearance by army in future is if politicians coming to power are honest and capable (as that could create respect and legitimacy for politicians in power, even in armed forces). That can only happen if masses that elect politicians get literate, get out of nepotism, and become financially independent from corrupts (big landlors, sardars, area politicians) that control their life, so that they can elect people of credibility. Nahi tou .. if a change would come, after few years of political rule, Pakistan would be singing: Yea toy wohi jagah hay guzray thay ham jahaan say :hoonh:.

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Sense would say PPP, the article didnt specify. I only report what was written.

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Thanks for the calculations & figures, Sa1eem!

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what it meant was 'we are a nation who can be governed only by dictators' ...

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Thanks. :)