Collecting all the information (useless or otherwise)

So, these days I am closely following the baseball season currently winding down in US. And though both games are quite different, it struck how much information they collect about the games and then discuss.

The purpose here is not to diss baseball, but to wonder whats the purpose of these infos and why we don’t collect it in cricket, or alternatively why do they collect it in baseball?

For example,

Errors. All erros made by a team are prominently displayed along with the runs and hits in each innings. Alternate in cricket will be to record all dropped catches and misfields by the fielders. Whats the frikkin point? Why and why not?

Home Runs. Alright, so how many sixes has Afridi hit in ODI’s so far? Anyone? I think its 160+. Why don’t we care about sixes hit by a batsman in his career? Or for that matter, fours, and twos.

More later.

why don’t you give a start?

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Yeah thats why they call baseball the game of stats. Every major north american sport has tons of stats. most of them are pretty intresting and some are really useless (like how many games a team has won when the dome is closed compared to when its open).

in cricket, im sure they have all the stats about a player and how many sixes he has hit but they dont bother showing it. Too much work maybe.

the first SIX afridi hit off pathan in the last match against india, i heard rameez raja (thanx to ASN’s video) say “afridi has hit his 167th SIX”…
he hit one more after that off pathan and then i guess one against windies…

so his tally wud be 169…

however as an altenative, u cud always check this list

Interestingly, Afridi is second only in the total number of 6’s (trails Jayasuria), second only in the strike rate (Cairns), and second only in 6s/Inning ratio (Flintoff).

Anyway, point is, in cricket we don’t pay all that attention to such statistics… I mean who cares how many mis-fieldings were there by fielding team or how many catches are dropped by a fielder, or how many 2’s and 3’s are scored by a batsmen throughout his career.

^ Afridi's is first in SR with strike-rate of over 100 (102.20 to be exact).
Not bad.

Afridi is second in S/R in this list. The highest strike rate is for B.L. Cairns... 104.88

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Anyway, point is, in cricket we don't pay all that attention to such statistics... I mean who cares how many mis-fieldings were there by fielding team or how many catches are dropped by a fielder, or how many 2's and 3's are scored by a batsmen throughout his career.
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...and that's why Cricket will never be on the main-stream in America - Good job Faisal - you got it. :D

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...and that's why Cricket will never be on the main-stream in America - Good job Faisal - you got it. :D
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I doubt that being the main reason of unpopularity of cricket. Main reason i think is the time it takes to complete 1 game which is AT LEAST 8 hours. Americans dont have time to watch game for this long.

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I doubt that being the main reason of unpopularity of cricket. Main reason i think is the time it takes to complete 1 game which is AT LEAST 8 hours. Americans dont have time to watch game for this long.
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If that is the only reason, Twenty-20 will solve it. But it takes time to bring a new sport in and create popularity for it. Although with so many immigrants, cricket probably has a better chance than any other "foreign" sports.

Anyway, back to statistics....

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If that is the only reason, Twenty-20 will solve it. But it takes time to bring a new sport in and create popularity for it. Although with so many immigrants, cricket probably has a better chance **than any other "foreign" sports.
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Anyway, back to statistics....
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you mean kabaddi? :D

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Interestingly, Afridi is second only in the total number of 6's (trails Jayasuria), second only in the strike rate (Cairns), and second only in 6s/Inning ratio (Flintoff).

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is it chris cairns?

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is it chris cairns?
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No, that Cairns is CL Cairns and is #5 in all time ODI sixes list. This one is different, though both played for NZ.

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No, that Cairns is CL Cairns and is #5 in all time ODI sixes list. This one is different, though both played for NZ.
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The other one is C L Cairns father.

You can't compare cricket stats with baseball stats. coz in baseball a batter faces few picthes in a complete game as compare to a batsman who can face more than 100 balls in an ODI innings or more than 200 or 300 or 400 in a TEST innings.
Similarly in cricket they dont keep records for number of hits and number of strike outs, coz a batsman (eg Mudassar Nazar, he scored the slowest test century 100 in 557 minutes) in a TEST can stay as long as he can without hitting many or any balls.

^ then what is "SR" for a batsman?

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^ then what is "SR" for a batsman?
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Its strike rate the number of runs per 100 balls. but you dont see a record like a batsman faced 6000 balls in his carrer.

I dono about anything else but a six in cricket isn't such a big deal as a home run in a baseball game since a team only scores an average of a couple of runs per game in baseball that is.. sometimes just 1.

I'm sure Bablu and other maadern coaches do record similar stats on their lappytoppys for ref purposes.

prolly not number of sixes, but tenacity to hit against what type of bowlers. Similarly maybe not number of dropped catches but performances of weak fielders in diff positions and where they can be hidden best etc.