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gardening? if i did that he'd probably garden me
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It is noisy and it is hectic at times, but being with a partner makes it better. I prefer quiet, but sometimes just being lost in a crowd with spouse is preferable.
You have to realize people are different, what you would prefer or want in your marriage is not necessarily what others do.
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Nah thats cool...i never disagreed with your points i just said i would do things differently...so neither of us wrong...just different...
Im not saying i wouldnt take a gal clubbing once im with her...its nice 2 bump n grind with your lady every now and again...but i just think there are better spots...if i go clubbing its more often when im single or when my boys go out...not somewhere where i specifically tend to take girls im with...
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theres other ways of having fun…why would u want to go clubbing? I personally wouldnt marry a guy who goes clubbing cuz he wouldnt be my type. theres nothing wrong with dancing with your spouse…but why do you want to do it in front of people? why do you want them to watch you?
islamically its totally wrong. thats enough said.
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Hmmm, husband is Muslim and he is my perpetual escort… as far as I see, if we are together as a couple, having fun, how does having fun become haram?
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Dancing, we are talking dancing, not sex… understand? you can dance in front of people without making a scene or even attracting a lot of attention. And even if we did, so what?
Islamically, you may do as you wish and marry who you wish, dancing or not. My husband and I did that and are perfectly happy with or without the blessing of anyone who wants to judge our relationship in any way. Again, having fun with spouse is in no way haram. And we all have different opinions on where the line is on what to do in public, yours is draw in a different place than ours is.
I think this became like the dating thread where everyone immediately started yelling wrong and haram because their definition of dating differed from others. What you may percieve as club behavior may be way out of sync with what is really there.
Another point I would like to make is that my husband and I are responsible to God for our behavior, not for a lecher’s behavior. A man can lust after a figure in a burqua, does not mean the lady in a burqua is at fault, the man is. Same for here. We may dance together, if someone stares, that is not our fault or even worry. We are together and we are doing something together as a couple we like. If we were at the mall and someone stared at us, should we stop going to the mall? Doesn’t make sense does it.
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Impulse...
I accept there are other ways of having fun...but clubbing is one way...
You wouldnt marry a guy who goes clubbing becuase hes not your type...accept the fact that not everyone has the same type...
As for clubbing its an outing...its like watching Jay Z on TV or seeing him perform in person...its an outing...and something shared with your spouse...i personally have no problem with people seeing me out having a good time with my gal...im not saying you are wrong but people have different perspectives to you...
And as for Islamically...no argument there...you are right...
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^I agree with what you’re saying. you have put it very well. you yourself have no problem with it…but on the other hand…you are not telling other people that its RIGHT. thats the difference between you and minah. you agree that its islamically wrong…even though you do it yourself…it takes alot of courage to say that. as long as you know something is wrong…chances are one day you will stop doing it…
if on the other hand you try to islamically justify what you are doing…then that person will always be doing wrong thinking in their head that what they’re doing is absolutely right.
so naughty by nature …I respect what u said :k:
as for minah…I totally disagree with you 
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Impulse - you may have that opinion :) , but would you mind actually putting down why it is Islamically wrong rather than just opining? That would be informative.
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firstly, the free mixing and touching of opposite sexes is wrong.
2) there’d be many semi naked women around…looking at them would be haram
3) dancing with ur spouse wouldnt be right in public
4) in an atmosphere where haram is going on openly..it’d be wrong to go there (eg kissing/hugging/and possibly more than that)
5) there would be drinking taking place in such a place which is also haram…
6) almost everyone is flirting with each other…which is also wrong.
as a result of such an atmosphere in the club, alot of haram is likely to take place…either within the club itself…or after it…hence the list goes on…
I havent myself been to a club so I dont know exactly what happens but I have heard about it…a colleague at work used to openly tell everyone exactly what happened there. question is…wouldnt you mind if your own kids went to such a place (knowing what takes place there ) ? if you wouldnt want them to go …then itd be wrong for you urself to go too.
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Impulse -
1) The only touching we do is each other, permitted, we are married. We are not dancing with anyone else.
2) sigh... there are many semi-naked women outside... looking at them is haram too, so you don't look or rather don't look with lust. Looking is fine. Lust is not. Who lusts after trash?
3) why?
4) I have yet to see that happen in the club I go to. There are more upscale ones, you have to be choosy. I am sure you understand that, same as the movies you see... you choose the ones that you wish to see and you don't go to the x-rated ones. simple.
5) drinking is haram if you participate, neither my husband or I drink, we dance, that was an easy one.
6) Who cares what others are doing? I am responsible for me and flirting with your husband is not haram. Neither is a husband flirting with their wife haram. Has this changed at all?
Since you are speaking from assumptions on what you believe clubs are like, it is understandable that you don't realize that there are differences in clubs and in the people who go to them. Your colleague at work sounds like he frequents one very different than the one I go to to say the least if people are indulging in more than kissing and hugging in public. Once my kids are old enough to go to a club (21) then how am I going to prevent that happening, unless you also believe that no one is allowed to live their lives also. If they wish to go to any of the three that my husband or I frequent, they are more than welcome to.
Let me say, assuming things really means speaking from ignorance.
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^^^Trust THAT woman to come to a thread about clubbing
Toba Toba...she is corrupting these young innocents too.
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look tht lady minah_pa...she sounds typical american woman..and she comes to paki forum and does not know single paki people,their culture and islamic rulings....minah pa,keep ur failed western culture to ur self......we pakis and muslims dont need ur advice
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Minah...
From my understanding...from what i was told...it is haram to enter areas where the sole purpose revolves around free mixing and alcohol...
So for instance a restaurant serves food...thats its purpose...alcohol and couples coming arent the main aspects...
Clubs for instance...the main purpose revolves around free mixing and live music which is also haram...one of the main aspects of a club is alcohol consumption...it is the same reason Muslims are forbidden from entering pubs...the main purpose of the establishment is based around alcohol...and free mixing...islam talks about segregation...hence the reason why weddings sometimes are segregated...
This is the understanding that i was given but i could be wrong...
Im not telling you what to do...cos hey i do it too...but its good to understand whether actions we do are correct or incorrect from Islam...
Lazy Daisy...if you dispute how someone practices Islam...u arent supposed to ridicule and humiliate them...you should discuss it with them...
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Leave Minah alone...
She has tried her damned hardest to educate herself and learn about a strange an alien culture and is trying to explain her point of view.
Man Plan...dont worry I save you...now wheres my club!
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minah it probably is very much an alien culture. I respect the fact that you state your opinion in a rational manner however islamically the concept of modesty is very different. Islamically segregation between sexes is encouraged, clubbing cancels that, secondly dancing in a mix gathering has HARAM written all over it. Whilst much worse is going on, you can’t state something that is unislamic to be all right for Muslims. I hope you don’t feel targeted by my post 
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versus people who tolerate shahi mohalla … seems like brain washing is not just one sided.
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Minah, your notion is based on your own desires and not what’s allowed in Islam. In Quran there’s a clear revelation, ‘do to not approach’ adultery’. It does not say ‘do not commit aldutery’. As you can see, there’s a huge difference between the two statements. Clearly, everything and every aspect of life is succinctly laid out by the scripture, only if you knew..now who’s the ignorant here..?
If you choose to follow your own desires and lusts, you can and will find any justification. And, you are free to do so and do so based upon your own applicable reasoning. But, you lack substance when you question the validity of Islamic guidelines regarding dancing with your own spouse in an environnment leading towards unrighteousness and gluttony..plain and simple!