their life stories make me more curious everytime i get to know something new about them 
that how their lives differed from ours ?
share your experiences .
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I dont know if this would count as an experience...but a book called Cleopatra by I think Margaret George had a great impact on me. I love Cleopatra I would have loved to see how actually she was and her life was....dont think much of JC though.
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^ According to some historical accounts, Cleopatra wasn't as stunning as famous. It was mainly due to narrators who added spice to Cleopatra's beauty that later on, she was thought of being an extremely beautiful woman. And you know they had a reason to do that: Two most powerful leaders of the most powerful empires [Rome and Egypt] were destroyed due to this very lady.
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Yes I did read that she was not a classic beauty. But to me she is beautiful in the sense that she was a strong lady and she was very fair and tried to mix in with the culture of the country she ruled ie Egypt. She learnt and preserved the languages, customs and religious traditions of Egypt. She raised her children very well and of course deservedly got her moment in history.
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Cleopatra was 17 or 18 when she became the queen of Egypt. She was far from beautiful, despite her glamorous image today. She is depicted on ancient coins with a long hooked nose and masculine features. Yet she was clearly a very seductive woman. She had an enchantingly musical voice and exuded charisma. She was also highly intelligent. She spoke nine languages (she was the first Ptolemy pharaoh who could actually speak Egyptian!) and proved to be a shrewd politician.
In compliance with Egyptian tradition Cleopatra married her brother and co-ruler, Ptolemy XIII, who was about 12 at the time. But it was a marriage of convenience only, and Ptolemy was pharaoh in name only. For three years he remained in the background while Cleopatra ruled alone.
Ptolemy’s advisors - led by a eunuch named Pothinus - resented Cleopatra’s independence and conspired against her. In 48 BC they stripped Cleopatra of her power and she was forced into exile in Syria. Her sister Arsinoe went with her.
Cleopatra and Caesar
Determined to regain her throne, Cleopatra amassed an army on Egypt’s border. At this time Pompey was vying with Julius Caesar for control of the Roman Empire. After losing the battle of Pharsalos he sailed to Alexandria, pursued by Caesar, to seek Ptolemy’s protection. But Ptolemy’s advisors thought it would be safer to side with Caesar, and when Pompey arrived he was stabbed to death while the pharaoh watched.
Three days later Caesar reached Alexandria. Before he entered the city, Ptolemy’s courtiers brought him a gift – Pompey’s head. But Pompey had once been Caesar’s friend, and Caesar was appalled by his brutal murder. He marched into the city, seized control of the palace, and began issuing orders. Both Ptolemy and Cleopatra were to dismiss their armies and meet with Caesar, who would settle their dispute. But Cleopatra knew that if she entered Alexandria openly, Ptolemy’s henchmen would kill her. So she had herself smuggled to Caesar inside an oriental rug. When the rug was unrolled, Cleopatra tumbled out. It is said that Caesar was bewitched by her charm, and became her lover that very night.
When Ptolemy saw Caesar and Cleopatra together the next day, he was furious. He stormed out of the palace, shouting that he had been betrayed. Caesar had Ptolemy arrested, but the pharaoh’s army – led by the eunuch Pothinus and Cleopatra’s sister Arsinoe – laid seige to the palace.
In hopes of appeasing the attackers Caesar released Ptolemy XIII, but the Alexandrian War continued for almost six months. It ended when Pothinus was killed in battle and Ptolemy XIII drowned in the Nile while trying to flee. Alexandria surrendered to Caesar, who captured Arsinoe and restored Cleopatra to her throne. Cleopatra then married her brother Ptolemy XIV, who was 11 or 12 years old.
Soon after their victory Cleopatra and Caesar enjoyed a leisurely two-month cruise on the Nile. The Roman historian Suetonius wrote that they would have sailed all the way to Ethiopia if Caesar’s troops had agreed to follow him. Cleopatra may have become pregnant at this time. She later gave birth to a son, Ptolemy XV, called Caesarion or “Little Caesar.” It has been suggested that Caesar wasn’t really Caesarion’s father – despite his promiscuity, Caesar had only one other child - but Caesarion strongly resembled Caesar, and Caesar acknowledged Caesarion as his son.
After the cruise Caesar returned to Rome, leaving three legions in Egypt to protect Cleopatra. A year later he invited Cleopatra to visit him in Rome. She arrived in the autumn of 46 BC, accompanied by Caesarion and her young brother/husband, Ptolemy XIV. In September Caesar celebrated his war triumphs by parading through the streets of Rome with his prisoners, including Cleopatra’s sister Arsinoe. (Caesar spared Arsinoe’s life, but later Mark Antony had her killed at Cleopatra’s request.)
Cleopatra lived in Caesar’s villa near Rome for almost two years. Caesar showered her with gifts and titles. He even had a statue of her erected in the temple of Venus Genetrix. His fellow Romans were scandalized by his extra-marital affair (Caesar was married to a woman named Calpurnia). It was rumored that Caesar intended to pass a law allowing him to marry Cleopatra and make their son his heir. It was also rumored that Caesar – who had accepted a lifetime dictatorship and sat on a golden throne in the Senate - intended to become the king of Rome.
On March 15, 44 BC a crowd of conspirators surrounded Caesar at a Senate meeting and stabbed him to death. Knowing that she too was in danger, Cleopatra quickly left Rome with her entourage. Before or immediately after their return to Egypt, Ptolemy XIV died, possibly poisoned at Cleopatra’s command. Cleopatra then made Caesarion her co-regent.
Re: Cleopatra & Julis Ceasar
Technicaly it shoule be… ANTHONY & Cleopetra… 
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Caeser was a blood thirsty tyrant and a butcher he killed hundreds of thousands of european tribesmen ] while cleopatra was a whore who killed her own brother to sit on the throne ....what the hell is so fascinating about them ?
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you guys should watch the HBO show ROME
it deals with this time
although be warned, it is extremely violent and has a lot of nudity but other than that I think its among the best shows on TV
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that 's what i was thinking . both of them were extremistis .
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i watched many of those shows