I would like to know the official GS policy and rules regulating content that can be considered immodest, indecent, vulgar or obscene.
It seems like currently no such rules are enforced on this site. In fact it appears that such content is supported, defended, protected and condoned by majority of the GS administration. My assessment is that this is clearly happening because the offending posters happen to be the mods’ friends and the mods don’t want to call out their friends on such content or that the admins’ own criteria of indecency are out of sync with the sites’ rules. Members who complain against such content are ridiculed and bullied by the administration and this clique. As such, it appears that the admin is guilty of violating its own rules.
If there are rules, but are outdated, then please update them saying that free speech is promoted on this site even if it may be considered immodest, indecent, obscene or vulgar by some members. At least then, there won’t be any confusion and contradiction.
My suggestion would be to limit such content to private blogs that are accessible only through invitation.
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Can you please post some examples of vulgarity on this forum, please? I'm in a hurry right now, I'll come back and review your complaint once you have posted the examples in this thread.
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I said I quit in the PAST because of indecent material and the bullying I faced from the administration when I complained.
Most of the kidding around in this thread is indecent and obscene.
And there are several posts that can be considered offensive.
I am not going to list them all out for you. You are smart enough to know.
Why don't you share the rules governing offensive and indecent material here so we know what the GS policy is and then compare the content of the posts in that thread against those rules.
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As far as I know, I’m the only one in the admin team who you approached previously with the same concern about “indecent posts” and I explained to you in a lot of detail why those posts didn’t need to be removed. When did I bully you, buddy?!
Yes, as a matter of fact, I am smart enough to know what’s offensive and what isn’t. There are people in the admin team who have over a decade of experience managing this forum. So how come none of us see anything wrong with the thread but you do? Either we’re all besharam and you’re the only decent person or we’re being quite reasonable and you’re being too sensitive.
The majority of our members would agree that we’re quite strict on GS when it comes to monitoring obscenity. Some would even argue that we’re perhaps too strict. So I’m sorry but your “assessment” is incorrect and unfair.
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Yes you should not have to, as its not your job nor is it your right and we won’t be judged by you. We will judged by God. No offense. As I said before on GS we have something for everyone’s taste. This isn’t a Muslim only website, if someone does not find a topic to their taste then there are plenty of other threads on GS to look at.
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[It was you and a couple other mods, Party being one of them. Also there was bullying by members of the Elite Clique. You were also upset that at one time I had PMed Ehsan Sahab to point out a post which he removed right away on one request whereas otherwise I would have been completely ignored. ]
While the guidelines are pretty general and vague it says something about a family-friendly environment:
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“· Not be offensive or inappropriate for a family-friendly forum. Yes, that’s quite the ambiguous and “open-to-interpretation” guideline – but we’d prefer to trust that you will all exercise sound judgement, so please don’t prove us wrong.”[End Quote]
Ironic much
No wonder the enforcement or lack thereof is dependent on the whims of the admins.
So, would you be amenable to making print-outs of these two threads and reading them aloud to your family tonight ?
I find it quite disturbing that none of the mods/admins find anything wrong with the thread even though I kind of figured that through experience already. How about the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] thread ?
I still cannot fathom that you folks would be comfortable with loose talk like this in a mix-gender environment - considering your Muslim and Pakistani background. I must be living under a rock or something.
I come to GS with an expectation of a certain ‘family-friendly’ standard of [somewhat clean] content with a certain level of decorum. I wouldn’t know if the stuff I come across would make a seasoned sailor blush or not but it certainly makes me blush with embarrassment and shame but doesn’t faze you girls and guys. Hmmm. If I wanted to read this kind of stuff, I would visit some other run-of-the-mill trashy website.
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“The majority of our members would agree that we’re quite strict on GS when it comes to monitoring obscenity. Some would even argue that we’re perhaps too strict. So I’m sorry but your “assessment” is incorrect and unfair.” [End Quote]
The above statement seems quite ludicrous.
I would like you to reiterate one more time for me that none of you mods/admins find anything obscene about the two threads in question.
If so, then Lord help us and have mercy of all of us. As somebody already pointed out to me that I am banging my head against a wall.
I am talking to hardened hearts.
I think it is about time you updated your guidelines with a disclaimer that “Free speech is promoted on this site even if it may be considered indecent, immodest, vulgar, obscene or offensive by some members with delicate sensitivities”.
Darn it, I knew that my blogs are offensive, vulgar and full of sexual references. No wonder shareef people of GS don't ever visit them.
TS bro, with the quantity of posts that GS accommodates every day, it's not easy to keep the quality up hundred percent of the times. You may always be able to pull out few examples of indecency every now and then, no matter how strict admins become. But compared to what you see in other social websites, GS is quite a family friendly place. I am sure that is the reason you came back in spite of your quitting.
Now stop complaining and go and post some quality posts.
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Darn it, I knew that my blogs are offensive, vulgar and full of sexual references. No wonder shareef people of GS don't ever visit them.
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[TS] Your blogs are funny but they definitely should only be for private viewing for puraanay, hardened paapis - men and women included. :) [TS]**
TS bro, with the quantity of posts that GS accommodates every day, it's not easy to keep the quality up hundred percent of the times. You may always be able to pull out few examples of indecency every now and then, no matter how strict admins become. But compared to what you see in other social websites, GS is quite a family friendly place. I am sure that is the reason you came back in spite of your quitting.
*[TS] I agree with your point about the quantity of posts but the ones that are quite clearly 'avante garde' to put it mildly and are pointed out should be taken care of. And yes I come here because I generally enjoy this place and some folks. [TS]
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Now stop complaining and go and post some quality posts.
[TS] Ya'ni, abhi tak jhakk maar raha thaa ? Vaisay lagta to yehi hai. :)[TS]
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So the vulgar types can rule this place completely ? And I didn't go the extra mile. This stuff is offensive at any level, except for people with 'dulled sensitivities'.
O and let the bullying start from the Elite Clique.
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O and Ramadaan mubarak to you too.
I believe there is a system in place to report offensive posts. Instead, you choose to (repeatedly) question the religious credentials of posters, which is, ummm, offensive in itself.
Re: Clarification wanted about GS rules against indecent content.
I believe there is a system in place to report offensive posts. Instead, you choose to (repeatedly) question the religious credentials of posters, which is, ummm, offensive in itself.
I agree with this. TS, I just read your taunts in TLK bhai's blog about behayai and fahashi from a namazi/haaji. Seriously dude? Don't be so snobby, please. I took it lightly when you questioned my namaaz/decency in another feedback thread but now I would request you to stop looking down on others in this manner, please.
I wouldn't even mind removing a few posts to accommodate your request but the problem is that it will become repetitive. You will continue to take offense to posts that no one else is bothered by and we can't just keep editing things that only you find so haram. And I'm certainly not going to amend any policies because the existing policies are working pretty well in my opinion.
And people's blogs are generally free from the rules we enforce on the public forum because blogs are their personal space and the only time we'd really intervene in blogs is e.g. in order to remove graphic images, pornography etc. So I don't know how much clearer I can be.
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My intent is not to look down or judge, it’s the stark contradiction that baffles me.
I want to understand how can folks who profess so much religiosity in so many places on this site not be conscious that modesty is the character of Islam.
That, and the thought, that there is no sense of shame prevailing when I come across such content, is offensive and embarrassing to me personally.
It is one thing for ‘guys being guys in the men’s locker-room’ and ‘girls being girls in their locker-room’ (even though that is also not completely okay),
but it is completely different in a place where both genders interact. There should be some decorum in such places.
I understand your practical concern, and hope that folks will exercise some personal restraint and self-censor.
And ask themselves how they would like their children or other family members reading some of their posts here in the future.
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I'm pretty regular about reviewing reported posts and I'm not sure that I saw any that were reported by you TS, as being offensive to your sensitivities.
Is there a reason why you opted not to take advantage of the features that we have made available and chose instead to fight back in the thread and to launch an attack at the administration of the site?
