**The word Sunnis is actually Nasibis in the original text, and if you recall my previous post, I had corrected his spelling from nasb to Nasibi. If you want the Arabic text, I can e-mail it out to the reader. It is quite apparent that the writer, Abu Sufyan does not understand the difference between the word sunni and nasibi.
To end this, I shall share a tradition from the beloved Messenger of Allah, that seperates out the fate of those who love the ahlul bayt and those who are nasibis, those who wish ill for the ahlul bayt.**
some fellow posted the folowing defination of nasibis in the closed thread revivied by intuit…i did not knew the true meaning of nasibis before as the term is very often used to describe sunnis…
just to clarify on sunnis behalf …we sunnis oppose those who hate ahl-e-bait as much as we oppose those who hate sahbahs…so kindly use this term in this proper context…we call nasibis khuwarij…who abuse ahle bait and praise yazeed…and ironically only one nation todays is ruled bt them i-e oman…more interestingly oman is much closer to iran then pakistan …even sunni ulema r not llowed to preach…irani shia ulema do have the permission… hope this clarifys our shia friends,…
Yes, i do respect them.
Ahl - Baits were the FAMILY of Prophet Muhammad(SAW).
This mean Hazrat ALi(RA),Hazrat Fatima and Hazrat Hussain(RA)
and Hazrat Hassan(RA).And a few others(RA).
But Ahl-e-Bait doesn’t mean all the 12vers or 6vers like
SHIAS(ISMAILIES) preach.
And it certainly doesn’t mean to give AHL BAIT Prophet or GOD like
status. They were human just like HOLY PROPHET(PBUH).
Allah ke nazar me NAZDEEK sirf wuh jo USKE HUKM ko manta ha.
Islam is not about blood line. Thats why Prophet Muhammad(SAW) was
not given a HEIR to Prophethood.
waran hum insaan ko pooj rahe huteee.
or message Allah ka lost hujataa. just like the Ahl-Kitabs.
Yes, i do respect them.
Ahl - Baits were the FAMILY of Prophet Muhammad(SAW).
This mean Hazrat ALi(RA),Hazrat Fatima and Hazrat Hussain(RA)
and Hazrat Hassan(RA).And a few others(RA).
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Dear Rehman!
I agree !
In "Lisan al Arab" by Ibn Manzur states:
"Nawasib are those who hate Hadhrath Ali, and embrace that hatred as part of their faith"
In "Taj al Uroous", we read:
"Nasibi are those who hate Ameer ul Momineen Ali bin Abi Talib (as) and take that enmity as part of their faith".
"Hadiya al Sahil" elaborates yet further:
"Nasibi ideology is a type of flawed character that is very bad, in its worst form is has a hatred for the Imam of Guidance Hadhrath Ali, and takes this as part of its Deen / Iman".
Do not be fooled by these enemies of Imam 'Ali (as). Their enmity is evident from their speeches, but is disguised in such a way that the ordinary man would not recognise it. Their methodology is just like that of hypocrites. They read the Kalima with their tongues but their hearts are polluted with hatred and the proof is their animosity towards Hadhrath 'Ali (as). Just like a bad foot odour they carry the stench of Nasibi thought everywhere they go - seeking to deceive the majority by proclaiming that this is the correct faith of Ahl'ul Sunnah wa al Jamaa.
But Ahl-e-Bait doesn't mean all the 12vers or 6vers like
SHIAS(ISMAILIES) preach.
And it certainly doesn't mean to give AHL BAIT Prophet or GOD like
status. They were human just like HOLY PROPHET(PBUH).
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Dear Rehman! i am repeating your words here...
You are again igniting sectarianism. Is this part of your religion to malign 12 Imams of Muslims(AS). Please, do not do this again. Do not do this again.
Brother! Since Shia & Sunni are 2 different school of thought that is why whenever they talk each one think that it is sectarianism. However its not.
Now it’s my right to reply you on the above post. but once i post a reply you will call it a sectarianism. Think over it and change your mind and invite people for freedom of speech. So you can learn.
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*Originally posted by inuit: *
Dear Rehman! i am repeating your words here...
You are again igniting sectarianism. Is this part of your religion to malign 12 Imams of Muslims(AS). Please, do not do this again. Do not do this again.
Brother! Since Shia & Sunni are 2 different school of thought that is why whenever they talk each one think that it is sectarianism. However its not.
Now it’s my right to reply you on the above post. but once i post a reply you will call it a sectarianism. Think over it and change your mind and invite people for freedom of speech. So you can learn.
"Nawasib are those who hate Hadhrath Ali, and embrace that hatred as part of their faith"
In "Taj al Uroous", we read:
"Nasibi are those who hate Ameer ul Momineen Ali bin Abi Talib (as) and take that enmity as part of their faith".
"Hadiya al Sahil" elaborates yet further:
"Nasibi ideology is a type of flawed character that is very bad, in its worst form is has a hatred for the Imam of Guidance Hadhrath Ali, and takes this as part of its Deen / Iman".
Do not be fooled by these enemies of Imam 'Ali (as). Their enmity is evident from their speeches, but is disguised in such a way that the ordinary man would not recognise it. Their methodology is just like that of hypocrites. They read the Kalima with their tongues but their hearts are polluted with hatred and the proof is their animosity towards Hadhrath 'Ali (as). Just like a bad foot odour they carry the stench of Nasibi thought everywhere they go - seeking to deceive the majority by proclaiming that this is the correct faith of Ahl'ul Sunnah wa al Jamaa.
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AND AGAIN i would like to quote that Sunni Muslims
don't hate Hazrat ALI(ra). But we do more ALLAH ALLAH
than Ali Ali.
i guess thats the difference between SHIAS and SUNNIS.
and (AS) is used for Prophets. In case you don't know.
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*Originally posted by inuit: *
Dear Rehman! i am repeating your words here...
You are again igniting sectarianism. Is this part of your religion to malign 12 Imams of Muslims(AS). Please, do not do this again. Do not do this again.
Brother! Since Shia & Sunni are 2 different school of thought that is why whenever they talk each one think that it is sectarianism. However its not.
Now it’s my right to reply you on the above post. but once i post a reply you will call it a sectarianism. Think over it and change your mind and invite people for freedom of speech. So you can learn.
And Intuit dear
tell me where am i wrong. I just said Prophets and Imams are HUMANS.
so whats wrong with that. how does it constitutes secterianism.
and that i don't believe in shia imams.
and how does it constitutes cursing.
Sunnis don’t hate the Ahle Bait or Imam Ali, but why do they love thier enemies like Muawiyah and Abu Bakr. Make up your minds and pick a side already! No wonder the Sunnis in Iraq are so confuzzled. They don’t know whether Saddam was a good leader or a murderous tyrant.
To the Rafidi’s anyone who does not slander and hate Abu Bakr As-Sideeq (radhi allahu anhu) or Umar Al-Farooq (radhi allahu anhu) or the Mother of the Believers the Lady Aaisha (radhi allahu anha) is a Nasibi and that just happens to be every Sunni Muslim.
So you're saying Shias are more knowledgable about history and Sunnis are ignorant folk who ignore facts and history and who give Muslims a bad name worldwide.
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*Originally posted by Salman: *
So you're saying Shias are more knowledgable about history and Sunnis are ignorant folk who ignore facts and history and who give Muslims a bad name worldwide.
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