CJ restored: Now whats next

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i dunno yar. everything happens once every four years and thats it.

its not about any one party, we just have an inadequate system, and nobody cares to fix it. the politicians dont have any interest in getting evaluated every two years do they.

edit: the nazim system comes close to it, i think its interleaved with the general elections. these need to be integrated with the provincial assemblies instead of having two seperate systems, and they need to be party based. this is one good legacy of mush that should be built upon.

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The irony of it is, that so far all Govts. have failed to last a full term. You'd think they would renew their mandate through public halfway because it will give them a renewed and resonant strength to go forward the remainder of their elective term.

Its very simple: Those who come in power never want to think or talk about elections or leaving the govt, no matter if its 4 or 40 years. How can someone make the amendment in constitution for mid-terms.

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the nazim system is halfway there i think.

You prefer the riots?? You sure???

I think it sucks, whereever it is

Akkhhhh.... I'm out now!

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/17/world/asia/17judge.html?_r=1&ref=world

**Reinstatement of Pakistan’s Chief Justice Ends a Crisis, but It Might Lead to Another **

By CARLOTTA GALL
Published: March 17, 2009
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The reinstatement of Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry culminated a two-year struggle by Pakistan’s lawyers to safeguard an independent judiciary, highlighted by long processions, sometimes violent clashes, and the repeated arrest and detentions of the leaders of the movement.

As they celebrated on Monday, his supporters speculated about what the chief justice would do once back on the bench. Having been restored by a popular outpouring led by Pakistan’s lawyers, the chief justice will have more moral authority than ever, some of his backers said — and with it the potential to further jolt Pakistan’s politics.
Through his tribulations, the 60-year-old judge has become the embodiment of the Pakistani people’s desire for change and for a fairer society. But even on Monday, the day of the government’s announcement, he remained an enigmatic hero, declining to comment to the news media.
He instead stood on the balcony of his house, waving and thanking the jubilant crowd of lawyers and political workers for their efforts in winning his reinstatement. The expectations among his supporters were extraordinarily high.
Muneer A. Malik, one of the Supreme Court lawyers who ran the campaign for Mr. Chaudhry’s reinstatement, said the chief justice was now under enormous pressure to deliver an independent judiciary after so many in the judicial profession had risked so much in the struggle for his reinstatement.
Several lawyers predicted that Mr. Chaudhry would open cases against both President Asif Ali Zardari and his predecessor, Pervez Musharraf, concerning past deeds.
One of the first issues he had to tackle was the position of all the judges appointed under President Musharraf, and the ruling they gave to validate Mr. Musharraf’s imposition of emergency rule, Mr. Malik said.
“He has to stand watch and protect our independence, and ensure access to justice for the weaker sections of society,” he said of the chief justice.
For Mr. Chaudhry, the government’s announcement of his reinstatement ends an on-and-off suspension, with intervals of house arrest, that began on March 9, 2007, when Mr. Musharraf took action against him, apparently fearing that the judge would prevent the general from seeking another term.
Before then, there was little to indicate that Justice Chaudhry would become a crusader against the powerful military establishment, friends and supporters say.
Born in 1948 to a lower-middle-class family in the small provincial town of Quetta, he studied and practiced law there.
He became a judge on the high court of Baluchistan in 1990, was appointed to the Pakistani Supreme Court in 2000 and became chief justice in 2005.
At first, he accepted military rule by Mr. Musharraf, who as head of the armed forces had seized power in a coup in 1999. Mr. Chaudhry was one of the judges who validated constitutional changes that the general pushed through to consolidate his rule.
Lawyers who worked with Chief Justice Chaudhry, and later became supporters, acknowledge that at the time they did not like him. He was known for losing his temper and throwing files back in their faces.
“He acted like a Texan bandit,” Hassan Akhtar, 34, a lawyer who was trained in Britain, said.
Chief Justice Chaudhry worked hard to clear a backlog of cases at the Supreme Court and took on politically controversial issues, but lawyers complained that he rushed cases through, opened his own cases to address injustices he had come across, and forced lawyers and government officials to jump to his orders.
He began to emerge as a maverick chief justice in 2006 when he blocked the privatization of the Pakistan Steel Mills Corporation, infuriating the prime minister at the time, Shaukat Aziz.
He also took on the military establishment over hundreds of missing people who were alleged to have been held without judicial process in secret detention centers, as Pakistan’s part in the campaign against terrorism.
As Mr. Musharraf began to look ahead to securing a second term as president, which would involve bypassing constitutional constraints, he sought to replace Chief Justice Chaudhry with someone more biddable.
Two years ago, when the general called Mr. Chaudhry to his military residence and, in the presence of several other military officials, asked the judge to resign, he refused. The president did not expect the chief justice to show such courage and stubbornness.
Mr. Musharraf dismissed him anyway, setting off a constitutional crisis. The refrain among average people in this impoverished country was that the attempt to remove the justice summed up all the social and economic inequities they suffered at the hands of a corrupt and abusive system.
“Whoever gets power here, gets his way,” said Maulana Muhammad Ameer Khan, a lawyer and cleric from the strife-torn North-West Frontier Province, who said the chief justice had helped resolve a case for him three years ago.
“Unless the rule of law on the ground is achieved,” he said, “the situation will not improve.”
People rallied to the judge’s cause, among them the politician and lawyer Aitzaz Ahsan and an influential group of constitutional lawyers who had long opposed the various periods of military rule in Pakistan’s short history. Together they orchestrated a campaign of motorcades taking the chief justice to speak to bar associations around the country.
The marathon road show gathered thousands of lawyers and demonstrators and drew hours of television coverage, which fatally undermined Mr. Musharraf’s hold on power.
The Supreme Court reinstated Mr. Chaudhry in July 2007, and Mr. Musharraf managed to secure his election to another presidential term that October. But as the constitutionality of his election came under increased questioning, he declared a state of emergency on Nov. 3, suspending the Constitution and placing Mr. Chaudhry under house arrest once again.
Mr. Chaudhry was released four months later, after the Pakistan Peoples Party won elections, led by Mr. Zardari after the death of his wife, Benazir Bhutto on Dec. 27, 2007, in a suicide bombing attack.
The new government promised to establish an independent judiciary, but it repeatedly delayed any decision on reinstating the chief justice.
Underlying the reluctance was the deal that Ms. Bhutto struck with Mr. Musharraf before her death that allowed her to return to the country from self-imposed exile and have all corruption cases against her, her husband and other party officials dropped.
Mr. Zardari, who was elected president last September, gave repeated pledges to his rival and coalition partner, Nawaz Sharif, that he would reinstate the judges, but he never did, until now.

Salman Masood contributed reporting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/17/world/asia/17pstan.html?ref=world

News Analysis
** Pakistan Avoids Pitfall, but Path Ahead Is Unclear **

By JANE PERLEZ
Published: March 16, 2009
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — It was a signal moment in Pakistan’s political development: A huge demonstration forced the restoration of a dismissed chief justice, Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, a symbol of democracy and the rule of law. The army did not stage a coup, but insisted that the government accept a compromise.

The deal between President Asif Ali Zardari and Nawaz Sharif, the leader of the main opposition party, does not herald a solution to the instability of this nuclear-armed nation. Nor does it ensure the Obama administration’s primary objective of tamping down the powerful Islamic insurgency that threatens both Pakistan and Afghanistan.
How the two Pakistani politicians will resolve their rivalry is but one of many uncertainties. Another is whether the domestic political struggle will allow them — or the military — to focus on their country’s deteriorating security situation.
President Zardari has been severely weakened by his efforts to squelch a national protest and faces defections from the usually cohesive Pakistan Peoples Party. His opponent, Mr. Sharif, emerged as a leader in waiting, but with no clear path to power.
The way ahead is likely to be messy for everyone, including the United States, and could turn out to be a major distraction from efforts to counter the insurgency, which is spreading closer to the main population areas.
But there was hope, American and Pakistani officials pointed out. For a country that has more experience with military rule than with democratic government in its 61 years, there was the possibility that the outpouring of civil society on the streets of Lahore over the weekend presaged a strengthened two-party democratic system, and the beginnings of an independent judiciary.
Mr. Sharif, often held in suspicion in Washington because of his leaning toward Islamic conservatives, was more cooperative than had been thought, some United States officials suggested.
In Washington, there was an awareness that Mr. Sharif’s reputation from the Bush administration of being too close to the Islamists might be overdrawn, and that his relationships with some of the Islamic parties and with Saudi Arabia could be useful, said a foreign policy expert familiar with the thinking of the Obama administration on Pakistan.
Mr. Sharif has told people that he got along well with the Obama administration’s special envoy, Richard C. Holbrooke, during their meeting at Mr. Sharif’s farm last month.
He speaks admiringly of Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, whom he met with former President Bill Clinton while in exile in Saudi Arabia.
Pakistani analysts, too, said Mr. Sharif could prove to be a useful partner as Washington tried to talk to what it considered reconcilable elements in the Taliban.
“Who from Pakistan can talk to a faction of the Taliban? It’s Nawaz,” said a senior Pakistani politician who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of alienating Mr. Sharif.
But Mr. Sharif has to play a delicate game because if he is seen as doing Washington’s bidding, he will be discredited among much of his constituency, the politician said.
And Mr. Sharif could also turn out to be unwilling to back some of the tough steps that Washington wants.
One encouraging sign for Washington was the role played in the crisis by the army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, who let Mr. Zardari know that he could not rely on soldiers to confront the protesters who were threatening to descend on Islamabad to demand the return of Chief Justice Chaudhry.
“The military acted to avert, to correct and to clear the way for full democracy with the center of gravity where it should be — in Parliament and the people,” said Jehangir Karamat, a retired general and former Pakistani ambassador to Washington, in an article for Spearheadresearch.org, his Web site.
General Karamat called the new military approach the Kayani Model, after General Kayani, whom General Karamat is close to. During the crisis, the army chief had been “invisible but around, fully informed and acting through well-timed and effective influence in the right quarter,” General Karamat wrote.
Another positive sign was the nature of the support Mr. Sharif garnered after he drove out of his house in a suburb of Lahore on Sunday through barbed-wire barriers, in defiance of a detention order.
As his bulletproof four-wheel-drive vehicle entered the main thoroughfare of Lahore, it was showered with pink rose petals from the crowd, made up of lawyers, party workers and couples who came with their children to join what turned out to be a celebration of Mr. Sharif’s nerve.
One man in the crowd, Shakeel Ahmad, a laborer, clutched the hand of his 4-year-old son, Muhammad Ahsan. “I am happy if the judiciary is restored,” Mr. Ahmad said.
The support of such a broad range of people is considered a first for Mr. Sharif’s party, the Pakistan Muslim League-N, which has generally ceded street power to the Pakistan Peoples Party, and it underscored Mr. Sharif’s political instincts, said Farrukh Saleem, a columnist for The News, a daily newspaper.
“He understood the pulse of the country,” Mr. Saleem said.
Those political instincts could serve the Obama administration well if Mr. Sharif continues to work with lawyers and civil society.
One of the senior advisers to President Obama on Pakistan, Bruce O. Riedel, now the chairman of the administration’s policy review on Pakistan and Afghanistan, has repeatedly said that representative government and civil society need to be reinforced in Pakistan for its people to resist the siren call of the jihadists.
On Monday, a suicide bomber attacked a busy bus terminal in Rawalpindi, outside the Pakistani capital, killing at least 9 people and wounding 18, Pakistani officials said.
In an interview last week, Mr. Sharif, referring to the terrorist threat, said “no single party has the ability to deal with this situation single-handedly.”
“The whole nation has to get together; it has to be a united front,” he said.
Speaking for the government, the new minister for information, Qamar Zaman Kaira, said Monday that it was time for the nation to forget the crisis of the past weeks and to look forward.
Under the deal announced Monday, Mr. Kaira said, the Pakistan Peoples Party would embark on discussions with Mr. Sharif’s party on a range of political reforms proposed under the Charter of Democracy, a document signed by Mr. Sharif in 2006 with Benazir Bhutto, the leader of the Pakistan Peoples Party, who was assassinated in 2007.
Mr. Zardari is the widower of Ms. Bhutto.
A major element of the charter involves getting the major parties to end attempts to undermine each other’s governments.
From Washington’s point of view, such a lofty result would be helpful as it tried to convince Pakistan that the insurgency, not internal politics, was the most important challenge.

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Interesting, very interesting. He seems like a mentally unstable person to me.

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He was known for losing his temper and throwing files back in their faces.
“He acted like a Texan bandit,” Hassan Akhtar, 34, a lawyer who was trained in Britain, said.
Chief Justice Chaudhry worked hard to clear a backlog of cases at the Supreme Court and took on politically controversial issues, but lawyers complained that he rushed cases through, opened his own cases to address injustices he had come across, and forced lawyers and government officials to jump to his orders.
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Have you every met a JUDGE in person?? Especially one who had been into the Supreme court stuff. Most of the judges are alwaz grumpy and disgruntled so its nothing new here. Now as most of the Pakistanis do, you are jumping to a conclusion just becuz you are against this person for whatever the reasons are..

there would still be mess as we are going through transformation as would continue untill familiar faces arent sidelined...
what i see in 8-10 years is emergence of new political class ofcourse wont be taliban.
so hold your expectations & look the events in glass of transformation process as well.

DAWN.COM | World | CJ should teach restraint to politicians: Washington Post

     CJ should teach restraint to politicians: Washington Post       

WASHINGTON: Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry could set an example for the political leaders by embracing restraint and compromise —qualities sorely missing from Pakistani politics, says the lead editorial in The Washington Post on Thursday.

The newspaper describes the lawyers’ movement as ‘a third secular force’ in Pakistan and notes that Mr Chaudhry is seen by many middle-class Pakistanis as representing the rule of law.

The Post says that the lawyers and judges involved in the movement now have choice of either destroying the country’s fragile democratic system by choosing to reopen old cases involving President Asif Ali Zardari, Nawaz Sharif or former president Pervez Musharraf.

Noting that Justice Chaudhry led the movement for the rule of law, the newspaper urges him to set an example and save the system by ‘embracing restraint and compromise.’

The Post says that while Pakistan’s latest crisis has eased, for the Obama administration, the challenge of political dysfunction in this nuclear-armed state has hardly diminished.

‘As they showed during the past week, Pakistan’s civilian and secular political leaders are more concerned with destroying each other than with fighting the extremists who are rapidly gaining strength in the country,’ the newspaper adds.

‘While saying they recognise the jihadist threat, Mr Zardari and Mr Sharif have resumed their ruthless competition parties’ that dominated national politics in the 1990s.

The newspaper blamed both leaders for using ‘undemocratic tactics.’ It notes that Mr Sharif chose to fight the government mostly in the streets rather than in Parliament, while Mr Zardari tried to block last weekend’s protests with mass arrests and media censorship.

The Post pointed out that in the past; Pakistan’s political feuding led to military coups, which have been tolerated if not welcomed by the United States. ‘But in the era of the Taliban and al Qaeda, which grow stronger with each new crisis in Islamabad, that pattern must be broken,’ the newspaper warns.
‘Pakistan’s military leadership and the Obama administration need to play a stabilising role for the civilian leaders by arbitrating and limiting their conflicts.’
They should insist on faithfulness to the rule of law and to the democratic process, rather than picking a winner —in the case of the United States —or directly intervening, in the case of the military, the Post adds.

It also urges the Obama administration and the Pakistan Army to press for agreement on the country’s main enemy —jihadism —and a comprehensive strategy for confronting it.

The Obama administration should recognise that it cannot combat the threat of terrorism in Afghanistan and western Pakistan without tackling the larger issues of governance in both countries, the newspaper notes.

‘The events of the past week showed that the United States must help to foster a stable and representative government in Islamabad. The same principle applies in Kabul,’ the Post concludes.