CJ, Reference, Restoration and 'Go Musharraf Go'...

The following reactions in the report were obvious.

BUT! Whats the connection between the CJ, Reference, Restoration and ‘Go Musharraf Go’…?

Why does everything come down and stop at ‘Go Mush Go’?

Obvious as the connection maybe, it doesn’t seem logical…

Didnt before March, not in March and doesnt in July…

It was Ali Ahmed Kurd again who blurted out yesterday that ‘hamari tehreek to asal mein Go Musharraf Go ki tehreek hai…’

Why?

If Peeja loses his Khotaa in an accident on GT Road, will he also join in on the ‘Go Musharraf Go’ campaign…?

Where and what are we getting at? And what next is in mind? From jungle law to amazon forest law? Out of the frying pan and into the fire?
Not that I think we’re in a jungle or frying pan right now to start with…

http://dawn.com/2007/07/21/top6.htm

Musharraf urged to pack up

Opposition leaders on Friday welcomed the Supreme Court’s verdict in favour of Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry and termed it a “historic victory” in the struggle for the supremacy of law and Constitution.

In conversations with Dawn correspondents, they said that President Gen Pervez Musharraf and his dispensation “must now pack up”.

Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) chairperson Benazir Bhutto said the verdict was most “remarkable” and a “giant step forward for ensuring independence of the judiciary” and “supremacy of the Constitution and the parliament”. She commended the role played by the chief justice, lawyers, civil society, media and political parties in the movement. Noting that a number of important issues, including the case of missing persons were awaiting judicial review, she hoped that the judicial activism demonstrated by the apex court would continue.

Ms Bhutto said the court proceedings had also brought into focus the role of intelligence agencies in the country and expressed the need for holding them accountable. Pakistan Muslim League chief Nawaz Sharif said the verdict was “a historic step towards constitutional rule”, adding that Justice Khalil-ur-Rehman Ramday and his fellow judges deserved to be congratulated for providing the nation with a ray of hope. Mr Sharif said there was now no moral or ethical justification for President Musharraf to continue in office. He claimed that after the verdict the ‘doctrine of necessity’ had been buried once and for all. He added that the country was now standing on the brink of ridding itself from the curse of dictatorship and military rule. He said the newly formed All Parties Democratic Movement would lead this struggle.

Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal (MMA) secretary-general Maulana Fazlur Rehman appreciated the verdict and urged President Musharraf to show courage and resign. “President Musharraf should quit the post of president and chief of the army staff after the verdict,” he said. He urged the legal fraternity to continue its struggle. “It is high time that we join forces to give an end to the military rule in politics once and for all,” he added.

Awami National Party president Asfandyar Wali Khan claimed that the “reinstatement of the chief justice is the first phase of peoples’ struggle. The next phase of this endless struggle would culminate with the restoration of the 1973 Constitution in its entirety”. He said the decision was reflective of the feelings of people and the nation was not ready to accept any pressure from the military-led government and wanted restoration of democracy, supremacy of parliament, freedom of media and establishment of rule of law.

Alliance for the Restoration of Democracy (ARD) chief Makhdoom Amin Fahim said that those who had initiated the reference against the chief justice should now step down. “If Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz is responsible for initiating the reference, he should accept his responsibility and quit,” he said. When asked why he had not mentioned President Musharraf, he said: “I say whosoever is responsible for initiating the reference should leave.”

MMA president Qazi Hussain Ahmed said: “The decision has come at a time when the Supreme Court is poised to hear and decide a number of crucial matters - the issue of the president’s re-election in uniform by the outgoing assemblies being the most crucial,” he said. He said the court would also be approached to decide if Gen Musharraf could contest for the office of president before two years even if he doffed the uniform.

ARD secretary-general Zafar Iqbal Jhagra said the decision warranted a bright future for the country.

National Party secretary-general Mir Hasil Bizenjo urged rulers to respect the will of the people by holding fresh elections and handing over power to elected representatives.

Awami Tehrik chief Rasool Bux Paleejo said: “This decision will open the gates of progress for the nation, which were barred by the world imperialism and its agents here in Pakistan since this country came into being.”

Sindh Taraqqi Pasand Party chairman Dr Qadir Magsi said: “With this historic victory the responsibility of judiciary has increased.”

National Peoples’ Party chairman Ghulam Mustafa Jatoi termed the verdict in line with the dream of Quaid-i-Azam.

Muttahida Qaumi Movement chief Altaf Hussain ‘whole heartedly’ accepted the verdict and reiterated his party’s ‘unflinching belief’ in the supremacy and independence of judiciary.

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that would be kinda like saying when a presidential action is overturned that he has to go, shyt, in US they could not even have bill clinton sent packing even after they impeached him.

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supporters of cj are talking crap. same court led by the chief justice has validated mushraff's position multiple times. so essentially mush's opponents are saying that court decisions are acceptable only if they are against government. their behaviour indicates why pakistanis are not ready for democracy. democracy means there will always be some losers. in pak however no one is ready to be a loser.

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The supporters of CJ are probably thinking that 'victory of CJ'='victory of constitution' and since Busharraf's rule is 'unconstitutional' he must go.

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Judiciary is independent and strong. If Musharraf is in power unconstitutionally, they should go to court and not road, don't they understand that?

They should know that when there is strong and independent judiciary, Insaan goes to court and only Shaitan and Haiwaan fight their case on roads :)

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musharraf's rule is not unconstitutional. after the coup, only those justices were retained on the superior courts who agreed to accept the p.c.o. the current cj is one of the judges who accepted the pco. the court granted musharraf two years to get the domestic house in order before holding elections. musharraf himself was elected under the referendum and 17th amendment permitted mush to hold dual offices until the end of this year. musharraf however gave an unwritten comittment to mma that he would take off his uniform after two years which he did not.

musharraf's rule has been challanged in the courts multiple times and each time court has ruled in favour of musharraf. question now is what the cj is going to do next time musharraf's rule is challanged. musharraf can legally seek vote from current assembly because his first election was through referendum. cj cant revoke musharraf's amendment to constitution because he swore on the quran that he accepted the change to the constitution which legalised musharraf's action against n.s.

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^^
Well, CJ cannot revoke constitutional amendments anyhow. He is not parliament with his vote constituting two-third majority :). He is there to follow the constitution that parliament passes. Whatever is in constitution, CJ has to follow. If parliamentarians bring a change in constitution and pass a ruling that from tomorrow, councilor can sack CJ, than that would be law and councilors would be able to sack CJ.

I think only confused and completely ignorant of law demands something or expect something from a person, what is not in their power. One should first look at the power that person holds before demanding or expecting something from them :)

For instance, if anyone ask those who are not moderator to delete their post on this forum, it would be useless to ask them, as they cannot, could they? IF one wants to get their post delete, they have moderator. Same way, if one do not agree with constitution, they have to ask parliamentarian and even then, if two-third parliamentarian agree, than only constitution could be changed.

As for CJ, his job is to see that all follow the law that exists at present, be they in government or in opposition :D

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saleem,

in his last speech at lhr julsa, cj said he wanted to see the adaption of 1973 constitution without the amendments. i thought this was a remarkable statement for someone who swore on pco. moreover his statment was a declaration of war on musharraf because removal of constitutional amendments under musharraf would mean that musharraf would suddenly be a criminal.

i am assuming that on returning to the supreme court, cj would try to find a legal way to screw musharraf. for me one important question is how the other judges are going to react from now on. judges tend to be conservative and would not want to rock the boat. otoh, we are talking about pak and singers have been hauled to supreme court because ONE person found the song lyric offensive.

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yawn lets see what happens

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:rotfl:[some important stuff highlighted from your own words]

What do all rulers take oath on when being sworn in?

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This whole CJ drama makes no sense to me.

I was expecting the current CJ to be finally ousted and someone else bought in, and I can see how this works against Musharraf.

So, if CJ decides to be a prick and take personal revenge (which is not the right thing to do, but who cares about "right" in Pakistan when the average citizen doesn't even have the tameez to spit in a sink), this whole hoo-haa over CJ was a bad move on Mush's part to begin with!

Maybe there is a foreign involvement to get Mush ousted.

In which case, I am going to be quite frightened as to who would take power in Mush's place. Extremism, unbelievably, is being contained at the moment. Any other namoona standing up for election takes over, and the extremist maulvis will have a hey day.

I'm so confused.

You'd really have thought that with Mush being basically a nice version of a dictator - would have gotten his way regarding the CJ issue.

Unless it was all a hoax to begin wtih.

Oh the conspiracy theories.