CJ confrontational on 18th Amendment?

Whether we like the president or not, we all know that CJ has been trying to find a way to oust Zardari, but unfortunately for him, he has not bee successful in that. He demanded NAB to ask Swiss authorities to re-open cases against the president, but the Swiss refused it. That must have infuriated him.
It looks like this fury is getting to his brain, because now he has started giving statements which if implemented will lead Pakistan to institutional crisis.

In the editorial below, DAWN is asking CJ what merited this sudden confrontation?

For Pakistan’s sake, the institutions, both judiciary and executive branches, should keep their cool. We do need strong judiciary, but neither the one that is biased to one party, nor the one that is unreasonably confrontational.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/editorial/19-premature-warning-840-hh-08

Taken at face value, the comments made by Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry on Friday simply restate a known legal approach: “Judiciary supervises a regime of the rule of law and not the rule of men”; the judiciary “has to prevent the arbitrary or illegal exercise of authority”; and the judiciary “may strike down any law inconsistent with the injunctions of Islam as laid down in the Holy Quran and the Sunnah and the fundamental rights as enshrined in the constitution.”

But the chief justice’s timing is rather odd: the 18th Amendment, which has recently been passed by both houses of parliament, has upset some ‘pro-judiciary’ elements in the legal fraternity because they argue that the amendment package impacts on the ‘independence’ of the superior judiciary.

Let’s revisit some constitutional basics here. Article 239 of the constitution after the 8th Amendment specifically ousts the jurisdiction of the courts when it comes to constitutional amendments and explicitly states that parliament may modify, add to or repeal any provision of the constitution. However, judiciaries the world over have been very sceptical of such ‘ouster’ clauses and have tended to strike them down or disregard them. Here in Pakistan, even prior to the present judicial era, the situation was no different: Pakistani courts have always made it clear that constitutional amendments are ‘justiciable’ and that the courts are empowered to examine the amendments for consistency with certain constitutional fundamentals. (There is an irony, though, in the fact that the courts have hitherto always used the justiciability of constitutional amendments to validate them rather than to strike them down.)

Now we come to why it is rather odd that Chief Justice Chaudhry chose the occasion of the National Judicial Conference 2010 to remark on the Supreme Court’s powers to strike down laws. While the court has reserved for itself the right to strike down laws, it is clear even to the layman that such an outcome could easily lead to an institutional crisis. **What exactly has happened recently that merits referring to the court’s power in this matter? There is no clear constitutional crisis. Nothing in the 18th Amendment can be plausibly read as undermining the spirit of the constitution or its fundamentals. So why is the top judge in the country publicly talking about his court’s power to strike down laws and “prevent the arbitrary or illegal exercise of authority”? **Was this a veiled reference to the tussle between the judiciary and the executive over the implementation of the NRO judgment? Cool heads will be required in the weeks and months ahead; needling of this sort will not work towards achieving that.

While the CJ and lawyers showed bravery against the dictator, he has now become too political in showing his personal animosity towards the elected govt.

Shame.

Most respectible figures in the lawyers movement like Justice (R) Tariq have said that in 18th amendment appointment of Judges is purely an administrative matter and not a freedom of judiary one.. Lawyer leaders like Qazi Anwar are idiots..

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this guy should quit the supreme court and just become a politician. issues a political statement very other day. what a clown. I can't believe that I was such a staunch supporter of his. what a waste of time and energy.

it's not just Dawn. others in the media (except for Geo and Jang) are also beginning to question the supreme court's behavior. Naseem Zehra made some excellent points about this. clearly the likes of Kurd, Tariq Mehmood, Asma Jehangir (who were among the the stalwarts of the judiciary movement) are not very impressed either.

the worst part of the whole episode is that people will become cynical about future causes like the judiciary movement. this was supposed to be the turning point. the common people fighting against an injustice and having it overturned for the sake of democracy, rule of law, etc. instead the skeptics have been proven right. Iftikhar Chauhdry, Ramday only wanted their own jobs and power back. pathetic...

What’s wrong with president appointing chief justices?
Do you think supreme court chief justice is the king of the country?

In fact, most countries don’t even ask for consent from chief justice when appointing the justices.

For example, America:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_nominates_or_selects_US_Supreme_Court_justices

“[The President] shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.”

Canada:

Justices of the Supreme Court of Canada are appointed by the Governor-in-Council, a process whereby the Governor General makes appointments based on the advice and consent of the Queen’s Privy Council for Canada. By tradition and convention, only the Cabinet advises the Governor General, as opposed to the entire Privy Council.

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The Parliament is the supreme institution in country & when it passes law unanimously an unelected judge should not have final say in it. CJ is clearly crossing the line which he should not.

You have to look at things in Pakistan's context. We don't have strong institutions and judiciary has always been subservient to the executive & easy to be manipulated. That is why taking power away from executive is the best thing to do.

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Wow. So you are saying the US Senate can pass a law that violates say the 1st Amendment of the constitution and the US Supreme court can do nothing about it?

Seriously?

I mean seriously?

Wow. Talk about Nazi Germany like thinking.

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SC has powers to challenge laws inconsistent with basic human rights or other provisions in the constitution. The chief justice is right but he should be doing, rather than saying these things. We should, however, remember that he was speaking at National Judicial Conference and not holding a press conference.

If he were taking out rallies and addressing press conferences, then the criticism is justified.

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These corrupt ministers are doing anything they can to prolong the culture of corruption. These guys want to loot whatever they can before they run off to Ingland and Amrika.

I am happy that CJ is asking questions. What credential does President have to appoint judges? He can be corrupt to the bone, an educated numb nut, a cheater and hypocrite like Dasti, Awan, Khosa and still have the final decision to appoint judges? Go CJ, keep asking questions of these chors. Next turn should be Nawaz Sharif and then Fazool Rehman, Altaf Hussain, Asfandyar.....

care to put this in my mind, what is more supreme and have full power to add, change & delete to the constitution be it one line or a full article ?

Possible scenario:

1) CJ take down the 18th amendment

2) Parliament emergency session is called and by exercising emergency powers throw out the CJ from the building of Supreme Court.

All the parties including Nawaz Sharif were present in the signing ceremony held at President House... this is a clear message... don't mess with the political process, and CJ needs to stop smoking whatever he is !

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^ Read article 184(3) here Chapter 2: "The Supreme Court of Pakistan." of Part VII: "The Judicature" with Chapter 1: "Fundamental Rights" of Part II: "Fundamental Rights and Principles of Policy" . This is what CJ is saying.

I am not sure if he considers 18th amendment to be ‘unislamic’. He’ll be certainly smoking something if he does.

Read http://www.supremecourt.gov.pk/jc-2010/inaguraladdressbyHCJ.pdf for context.

A typical sensational misreporting by Dawn, in my opinion.

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Few points

1. **In countries where written constitution is present , Constitution is Supreme** not Parliment like Israel or UK or New Zealand etc having no written publication of constitution which draw on all previous court rulings, legislation and convention and hence Parliment is Supreme in thesecountries

2. If 342 of NA and 100 of Senate rise today and unanimously say that they can change a *comma * against Basic Structure of 73 , they cannot ! Indian supreme court two times kicked out Indian Parliment amendments

3. All those Sharabi , Kababi, Haramkhors, Smugglers , Sugar-Industrialists Dons and Fake degree holders would decide about appointing judges , then next would be the appointing and questioning the ISI and Armed Forces Chief in front of Senate Armed Committee like that of Mike Mullen or Mcrystal do , a joke indeed !

:chai: :yawn:

so whats new?

sorry to burst the bubble but appointing chairman of NAB and setting Sugar prices is nothing like passing law against 1st Amendment.

Supreme Court has every right to punish the corrupt NAB chair but in now way has a right to give Govt the name of chairman to appoint. Similarly, SC MIGHT have a right to ask Govt to review the prices of sugar but has NO right to set the sugar prices...

and please dont compare it to US where SC decisions are openly criticized without hurting the ego of CJ. In pakistan everyone has to deal with kick @$$ law of "court ke izzat" (Contempt of Court ). How about that law being against the basic human rights and SC ruling this law unconstitutional ?

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^^ sugar today is Rs 74?kg which was Rs 27/kg just 2 years ago. Now what SC do when Makhdoom Amin Fahim with help of TDCP and Manzoor Wattoo caused billions of Rs loss to Pak for not importing sugar in time having secret deal with sugar mafia sitting in Assemblies and Senate

If Amin Faheem and Watoo (or anyone) has done something illegal, punish them so no one else can do this in future. SC has no right to SET The price of sugar.

What will SC do next? set the price of Naz Paaan Masala, gutka and leMOO-LAYmon?

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agreed , prices depend upon supply-demand chain and many people criticize this ruling but again when there is not even a sense of 1% governance in executive pillar, then what SC, the other pillar, would do

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Parliament is supreme, the collective wisdom of all the elected members are more important then a single judge !

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http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:49evY1TGMzMqQM:http://pakalert.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/ch-ifitkhar-the-pco-judge.jpg

They have no choice to do that. This is a right of Parliament.
They have done worst with constitution in past.