Civil war in Iraq

[sanjsingh]

Re: Civil war in Iraq

@javedmiandad

With American death squads and contractors having free run in Iraq for over 10 years. You chose not to acknowledge their bombings and assasinations in both shia and sunni places of worship to create division and situation we have today.

Because this is their expertise.

Did you support Iraqi occupation by the American military?

Ok for the record the Iraq war was wrong it was not legal and caused much destruction. Many, many, Iraqis died unecessarily. Saying that we cannot blame the Americans for what is happening now, old scores are being settled and we can't keep blaming that on the usual suspects that is simply an act of denial.

[rommel]

Re: Civil war in Iraq

@sanjsingh

Ok for the record the Iraq war was wrong it was not legal and caused much destruction. Many, many, Iraqis died unecessarily. Saying that we cannot blame the Americans for what is happening now, old scores are being settled and we can't keep blaming that on the usual suspects that is simply an act of denial.

Iraq has been destroyed society shattered and you say we cannot blame the Americans now?

that's like saying i burned your house and its not my fault anymore because i already left the area!

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: Civil war in Iraq

@javedmiandad

With American death squads and contractors having free run in Iraq for over 10 years. You chose not to acknowledge their bombings and assasinations in both shia and sunni places of worship to create division and situation we have today.

Because this is their expertise.

Did you support Iraqi occupation by the American military?

The above is very true. In September 2005 British soldiers were caught dressed as ‘Arab terrorists’!

The Insider - British special forces caught dressed as Arab ‘terrorists’

When viewed in the context of all the stories that have been circulating about the mythical ‘al-Zarqawi’ and the alleged role of al-Queda, the events in Basra are the first real evidence that we have of the role of occupation forces in destabilising Iraq through the use of agents provocateurs masquerading as ‘insurgents’.

And, as I have long alleged here, it is now almost certain that ‘al-Zarqawi’ is probably long dead. An AFP story tells us
[The] Imam of Baghdad’s al-Kazimeya mosque, Jawad al-Kalesi said, that “al-Zarqawi is dead but Washington continues to use him as a bogeyman to justify a prolonged military occupation…He’s simply an invention by the occupiers to divide the people.” Al-Kalesi added that al-Zarqawi was killed in the beginning of the war in the Kurdish north and that “His family in Jordan even held a ceremony after his death.”
And indeed, last year, in a piece I wrote about ‘al-Zarqawi’, I referred to a report about ‘al-Zarqawi’ being killed when the US flattened the ‘base’ of his group Ansar al-Islam in northern Iraq in early 2003, a report that actually originated with the US government.*

British Uncover Operation in Basra: Agents Provocateurs? | Global Research

[sanjsingh]

Re: Civil war in Iraq

@rommel

Iraq has been destroyed society shattered and you say we cannot blame the Americans now?

that's like saying i burned your house and its not my fault anymore because i already left the area!

I've already made it quite clear that I am not defending the Americans so let's move on with that.
Lets also use your example, now if the Americans were to burn down my house that would be their fault and would be to blame. If though once the house is on fire the neighbours were to take advantage of the situation and loot my property and take control of my possessions that would be their fault.
The Sunni and Shia rebels choose to bomb one another, because they don't want to see the other in power. Saddam had kept the religious nuts under control but now they are free to do as they wish.

[rommel]

Re: Civil war in Iraq

Your last point although said rather crudely is what i was alluding to the Americans tipped society upside down and left the place as a sectarian battleground now whose fault is that.

[Captain1]

Re: Civil war in Iraq

@Doppleganger

America is not there anymore. Time for the actual actors who are blasting away to take 100% blame for this.

When you remove a working government/institution and let chaos take over then step out of the scene does not absolve you from the crime/sin you committed.

[sanjsingh]

Re: Civil war in Iraq

Yes rommel I have blamed the Americans for their actions but you have repeatedly ignored the acts of so called Muslims in Iraq who bomb each other.