CIA has no plans to suspend drone strikes: report

CIA has no plans to suspend drone strikes: report

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****Leon Panetta, Director of the Central Intelligence Agency — AFP

**KARACHI: According to a report in the Washington Post, US defense officials have claimed that there is no plan to suspend or restrict the CIA’s drone campaign in Pakistan, and that the agency has not been asked to pull any of its employees out of Pakistan. **
US and Pakistan’s relationship was the focus of a nearly four-hour meeting Monday at the CIA headquarters between agency director Leon E. Panetta and Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, the head of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence directorate.
The report stated that during the meeting, Panetta said that he has an obligation to protect the American people and was responsible for national security and therefore he had no plans to call an end to the drone strikes in Pakistan and nor was he planning to alter their frequency.
However, the CIA agreed to reveal more about its operatives and their activities in Pakistan but said that it would offer no information on the under-cover personnel.
The report also clearly stated that Raymond Davis was a CIA agent who was in Pakistan to spy on the country’s nuclear program and find information on terrorists groups.
It was agreed in the meetings that efforts would continue to be made to reduce tensions in the Pak-US relationship.

Maa ki aank----humrai history is one one-man-show to another one-man-show :hinna:

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Every nation has the right to protect its interests -- clearly, USA is protecting its own, and you cannot blame them for that

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bhai meen is naey villan shuja-pasha ki baat ker raha tha

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Only to the extent to which it respects the sovereignty of another. Anything else, is by definition, waging war...or in this case, war mongering.

However, I do not think the US has been asked, period. It's clear that the Pak. politicians are making gestures to placate an angry public.

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Recently two CIA thugs were killed by drone, That darn ISI providing cordinates...

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Another drone attack in Miran shah, wonderful timing.

1) First drone when Davis was handed over to the americans
2) Second drone when Pasha met CIA chief and asked him to reduce drone attacks, on his way back drone attack carried out
3) Third drone carried out when COAS met American COAS and asked him to reconsider drones as they are destabilizing Pakistan, on his was back to US another American gift

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**http://dunyanews.tv/index.php?key=Q2F0SUQ9MiNOaWQ9MjQ0OTM=

Miranshah: 6 killed in drone attack
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The US drone aircraft fired four missiles targeting a house in the Hasan Khel area.

At least six people have been killed and four have been injured when a US drone aircraft fired four missiles targeting a house in Hasan Khel.

This is the third drone attack after the release of Raymond Davis. Despite the continued protest by the Pakistan government and the army, the United States is continuing the drone attacks.

**The first attack was on the day after Davis’ release. The second attack was when the Director General Inter-service Intelligence Lt General Ahmed Shuja Pasha was visiting the United States. The third attack took place when the Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir is visiting the United States. **

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/29/world/29petraeus.html?_r=1&ref=world
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Move to C.I.A. Puts Petraeus in Conflict With Pakistan**

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The appointment of Gen. David H. Petraeus as director of the Central Intelligence Agency puts him more squarely than ever in conflict with Pakistan, whose military leadership does not regard him as a friend and where he will now have direct control over the armed drone campaign that the Pakistani military says it wants stopped.

Pakistani and American officials said that General Petraeus’s selection could further inflame relations between the two nations, which are already at one of their lowest points, with recriminations over myriad issues aired publicly like never before.

The usually secretive leader of the Pakistani Army, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, has made little secret of his distaste for General Petraeus, calling him a political general. General Petraeus has privately expressed outrage at what American officials say is the Pakistani main spy agency’s most blatant support yet for fighters based in Pakistan who are carrying out attacks against American troops in Afghanistan.

Officials on both sides say they expect the two nations’ relationship to become increasingly adversarial as they maneuver the endgame in Afghanistan, where Pakistan and the United States have deep — and conflicting — security interests.

Repairing the frayed ties between the C.I.A. and Pakistan’s primary spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate, will be difficult, American officials say. “In its current form, the relationship is almost unworkable,” said Dennis C. Blair, a former American director of national intelligence. “There has to be a major restructuring. The ISI jams the C.I.A. all it wants and pays no penalties.”

One American military official sought to play down the animosity with Pakistani officials, noting that the general had regularly met with the Pakistanis for nearly three years, most recently on Monday. Still, the official acknowledged that with General Petraeus leading the C.I.A., “the pressure may be more strategic, deliberate and focused — to the extent that it can be.”

A Pakistani official described the mounting tensions as a game of “brinkmanship,” with both Adm. Mike Mullen, who as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has been the Obama administration’s point man on Pakistan policy, and General Kayani growing impatient because they have little to show for the many hours they have invested during more than two dozen visits over the past three years.

Admiral Mullen surprised Pakistani officials by publicly accusing the ISI of sheltering fighters from the Haqqani network, a Taliban ally that has long served as a proxy for Pakistan’s military and intelligence establishment in Afghanistan. American commanders in eastern Afghanistan say they have killed or captured more than 5,000 militants in the past year, but fighters continue to pour across the border from sanctuaries in Pakistan to Paktia, Khost and Paktika Provinces in Afghanistan.

In a private meeting here in Islamabad last week, Admiral Mullen told General Kayani that the C.I.A. would not reduce the drone strikes until Pakistan launched a military operation against the Haqqani network in Pakistan’s tribal areas, an American official said, pleas that the admiral has been making for the past two years with nothing to show for them.

Pakistan’s military and its intelligence agency are increasingly embarrassed by the United States’ drone campaign, which they publicly condemn but quietly allow. They have asked the C.I.A. to remove its personnel from Shamsi air base, about 200 miles southwest of Quetta, the capital of Baluchistan Province, where some of the drones are based, a senior American official said.

The withdrawal has not occurred but is expected soon, the official said. The drone attacks would then be flown out of Afghanistan, where some of them are already based, the official said.

There have also been sharp disagreements over a proposed code of conduct that would define what American soldiers and intelligence agents can do in Pakistani territory, a Pakistani official said. The Pakistanis have, for now, dropped the idea of such an accord, fearing that the Americans are looking for “legal cover” for intelligence operatives like Raymond A. Davis, the C.I.A. contractor who killed two Pakistanis in January, a Pakistani official said.

“The relationship between the two countries is very tense right now,” said Representative William M. Thornberry of Texas, a senior Republican on the House Armed Services Committee, who visited Pakistan last week. “And the Pakistan government fuels the anti-American public opinion to increase pressure on us.”

Newly disclosed documents obtained by WikiLeaks have also stoked tensions. One of them, from the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, lists the ISI along with numerous militant groups as allies of Al Qaeda and the Taliban, an indication of how deep American suspicions run when it comes to Pakistani intelligence. The document is undated but appears to be from 2007 or 2008.

**A former general said the alliance established after 9/11 to get rid of Al Qaeda on Pakistani soil was built on shaky ground, with few aligning interests beyond stopping the terrorist group. Tensions over issues big and small — like accounting for American grants to the Pakistani military and the failure of the United States to deliver helicopters that would help in counterterrorism efforts — clouded the hastily arranged alliance from the start, he said.

But now the collision of interests over how to end the war in Afghanistan, and the bitterness over the Davis affair, have exposed deep-seated differences, he said.

The drone campaign, which the C.I.A. has run against militants in Pakistan’s tribal areas since 2004, will now become the preserve of General Petraeus, and it has moved to center stage, at least for the Pakistanis. Since Mr. Davis’s release from custody in Pakistan after the killings, the C.I.A. has carried out three drone attacks, each one seemingly tied to sensitive events in the United States-Pakistan relationship and aimed at Afghan Taliban militants that Pakistan shelters.

The day after Admiral Mullen left Pakistan last week, a drone attack in North Waziristan killed 23 people associated with Hafiz Gul Barhadur, whose forces are fighting NATO in Afghanistan. Earlier in April, after Lt. Gen. Ahmad Shuja Pasha, the ISI chief, left Washington, a drone attacked another group of Afghan Taliban.**

Another** former Pakistani general who speaks to General Kayani said he believed that the Pakistan Army’s leader had concluded that the drone campaign should end because it hurt the army’s reputation among the Pakistani public. Those being killed by the drones are of midlevel or even lesser importance, the general said.

The Americans say the drones are more important than ever as a tool to stanch the flow of Taliban foot soldiers coming across the border to fight American and NATO forces.**

**The easy access into Afghanistan was on full display last week in Wana, the main town of South Waziristan, according to a local resident.

There, militants loyal to Maulvi Nazir, a Taliban leader who maintains a peace agreement with the Pakistani military and whose forces often cross into Afghanistan, showed high morale and were moving around freely in front of the Pakistani Army, the resident said. “It looked,” he said, “as though the army was giving them a free hand.”**

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for how long they will do their man maani! !inshaAllah US will doom very soon!!

man , can't Kayani take a strong stance against all this?? cmon show you really care for Pakistan!!!!!!!!!!!

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Why would Kiyani care for Pakistan? He earns his money and thats it for him.

Pakistan's stupid little protests look very pathetic. If they are that bothered by drone strikes then they should retaliate by not allowing NATO supplies.

The fact of the matter is that the Americans give money to Pakistan to do a job, if Pakistan is not able to do that job they should say so. It is fair enough.

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Quran burnt in Florida church

****GAINESVILLE, FLORIDA: A controversial US evangelical preacher on Sunday oversaw the burning of a copy of the Quran in a small Florida church after finding the Muslim holy book “guilty” of crimes.
The burning was carried out by pastor Wayne Sapp under the supervision of Terry Jones, who last September drew sweeping condemnation over his plan to ignite a pile of Qurans on the anniversary of September 11, 2001 attacks.
Sunday’s event was presented as a trial of the book in which the Quran was found “guilty” and “executed.”
The jury deliberated for about eight minutes. The book, which had been soaking for an hour in kerosene, was put in a metal tray in the center of the church, and Sapp started the fire with a barbecue lighter.
The book burned for around 10 minutes while some onlookers posed for photos.
Jones had drawn trenchant condemnation from many people, including US President Barack Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, over his plan to burn the Muslim holy book in September.
He did not carry out his plan then and vowed he never would, saying he had made his point.
But this time, he said he had been “trying to give the Muslim world an opportunity to defend their book,” but did not receive any answer.
He said he felt that he couldn’t have a real trial without a real punishment.
The event was open to the public, but fewer than 30 people attended.
Life in the normally quiet city of Gainesville is centered around the University of Florida. And while there were public protests against Jones’ 9/11 activities, this event was largely ignored.
Jadwiga Schatz, who came to show support for Jones, expressed concern that Islam was growing in Europe.
“These people, for me, are like monsters,” she said. “I hate these people.”
Jones said he considered this event a success.
“This is a once-in-a-lifetime experience,” he said.

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I've the pastor is also supportive of westboro baptist church. If it is true, then he sure has some nice friends for company.

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did ISI respect US sovereignty when it allowed terrorist networks that caused 9/11? or when it trained and funded LeT that caused Mumbai attack?

Give respect to get!

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man leave aside mumbai, as thats another thing raw has never respected pakistani sovereignty and vice versa...

besides the people who carried out the attacks on the united states have been pampered by the americans themselves, at one stage the americans used to call them mujahideen and russians used to call them terrorists...heard of "what ever goes around comes around"?

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Blame US first then Afghanistan for that :chai:

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sigh. The Pak government offered to take action against OBL's camp when Clinton was in power, however the Ameircan administration did not express any interest at the time. The assertion that the ISI knew of 9/11 is a crazy conspiracy theory. Ditto for funding LeT.