If indeed the Jews now living in Israel deserve the credit of people living in Jerusalem 2000 years ago, (which they Jews do! thus claiming a right to live their). Shouldn’t they also have the liabilities.
Shouldn’t Christians be avenging attempted crucifixion of Jesus instead of helping these murdering Jews?
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I dont think christians are necessarily 'supporting' israel. well, this is certainly not the case with syrian-christians. They are supporting Hezbollah and Lebanon.
It's just unfortunate that the two major role-players in supporting Israel happen to be majority christian states. They don't necessarily reflect the views of Christians globally or domestically.
However, there are certain churches in the United States with strong ties to Israel and Zionism-- but this is not the case with majority of christians across the world. At least not from what I've observed.
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Jesus did not preach vengence, he taught forgiveness.
Christians believe it was more than attempted, he actually was crucified and died on the cross.
Jesus didn't have to be crucified if he chose not to.
Jesus was a Jew.
By his crucification, Christians believe he paid for the sins of all humanity and became mans' saviour.
Your premise is wrong on many fronts.
Is this Mel Gibson?
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By his crucification, Christians believe he paid for the sins of all humanity and became mans' saviour.
what does that mean?
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Christians in Lebanon may not be supporting Israel, but the closely followers in other parts of the world do support Israel partly because they want the stage set for 2nd coming of Jesus.
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Teaching vs. practice.
West mostly christians has a long history of vengence, not forgivness.
noted, but i don’t!
And they are the ones who tried to kill him…
You are missing the point here… The attrocities commited againt Jesus was done by Jews.
So what would you Muslims do if one of the kaafirs of Quresh stood in front you?
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nowadays christians believe or say that Romans r responsible for the crucifixtion, so they don't blame jews anymore.
christianity is quite an interesting "religion," if u can call it that, all you have to is believe that Jesus died for your sins, and automatic heaven, u can do whatever you want, you can be the worst person in the world, and you still will get into heaven because you believe jesus died on the cross. No wonder people convert, its nice to know that ur not responsible for your sins and actions, and u will not be punished for it.
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It's the basis of Christianity.
That is wrong. Christians must repent just as Muslims. No difference.
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Who should they take vengeance on? No one who had any responsibility for what happened back then is alive now.
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so jesus' death was in vain, and doesn't really affect modern day christians, if he died for the sins of mankind yet christians still r held responsible for them, what was the whole point of it?
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Well said.
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I didn't ask that, I am looking for the explaination of the sentence I highlight in that post, thanks.
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Again...and yet again...my dear friends...its not the religions...its the interests (bread or roti)...
Turkey provides its airspace to Israelis to train F-16 etc...because Israel is too small to train there...interest...not religion...
S Arabia sells oil to US and have huge investments there etc...not religion...again interests...
Kuwait & Bahrain offered places to attack Iraq...you see religion...no...interests...
Palestinians sold their lands to Jews after or just during the WWII...far above the market prices then...which lead to the formation of the Jewish state secretly (freemason thingy)...interest...not religion again...
So long... :)
PS: Some 6 billion people trying to settle their odds eternally...while Zabardast is watching...hmmmmm
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Shouldn’t Christians be avenging attempted crucifixion of Jesus instead of helping these murdering Jews?
I think religion is not the big factor here. Its better to pit muslims against Jews, either muslims suffer huge loses or Jews will suffer. To the ardent Chrsitian either is acceptable to propagate their ideology. See its a triangle i.e. Christians, Jews and Muslims. All three fighting each other is very unlikely however two against one is very likely and it is happening.
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As I believe you are correct!
However Israelis claim they have right to “The Promised Land”. That means they are the same people!
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so true, thats why they want to clear palestine/jerusalem of all the muslims or at least have them in their power, lol they r afraid that if they don't do something Jesus will never come. they think if they don't it then Gods work won't be completed.
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Point simple and straight: Religion is the biggest factor here! Israel is a Jewish state.
Major religion in US is Christianity! Why are Christians backing Jews? Why are christians sons dying in a Jewish war (Iraq) against Muslims?
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No, it means they claim to be the descendents of those same people.
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Seminole is precisely right. The Jews and Christians share a common heritage through the Old Testament. Jesus was born a Jew.
Speaking of commonalities, both the Bible and the Quran teach that vengence is the province of God, correct?
Trying to create hate is a somewhat obvious and transparent strategy. Muslims might do better to accentuate the commonalities of the Quran and the Bible rather than trying to drive a wedge between other religions.
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So why do they get the benefit not the resposibilities of “same people”?