This is very cruel. Human rights should be protected of everyone whether in prison or just drinking water from the wrong tap. I have feeling the parents of this kid must be wishing very sadly only if their son was photographed naked instead.
Christian youth’s murder condemned
LAHORE The Commission for Peace and Human Development (CPHD) on Sunday expressed serious concern over the murder of a Christian youth in the name of religion. Javed Anjum, 19, of 291GB Village in Toba Tek Singh district, allegedly died after five days of torture by the administration of a seminary in 323GB of Trindi village. Waseem Anthony, executive director of the CPHD, said Javed’s crime was that he drank water from a tap near the seminary. His relatives said the torturers had tried to force Javed to convert to Islam as well. Mr Anthony said that the administration allegedly asked police to book the youth in a theft case, but the police refused because he was dying. His relatives later took him to Allied Hospital, where he died. “In the wake of government claims that they are trying to make Pakistan a moderate and tolerant state, religious intolerance in any form is totally unacceptable and should be done away with immediately,” Mr Anthony said. The CPHD director asked the government to investigate the incident and punish his murderers. staff report
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This is very cruel. Human rights should be protected of everyone whether in prison or just drinking water from the wrong tap. I have feeling the parents of this kid must be wishing very sadly only if their son was photographed naked instead.
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What? You dug this story up in revenge for the bad publicity over the Iraqi photo scandal? You don't need to Chan, we know Pakistan has it's share of barbarians and thugs. This sort of sickening violence needs to be condemned and acted against whether it's done by American troops in Iraq, Indian ministers in Gujarat or Paki wankers in seminary 323GB.
Isloated Inncident, i live in Rawalpindi and we have a very large christian prescence in Lal-kurti and other areas, we live side by side and nothing happens. The Animals that did this need to be thrashed!
But this was one boy, what about thousands and thousands of muslims that die every day, from bombs, discrimination, bullying , guns or political error’s!
Come on… Do you really think this mess is confined to muslim countries,? What about the pakistani boy who was picked up by BNP raceists in Soctland and beaten up until he died? Hmm? What about that?
THis crap happens everywhere you have a clash of political, idiological or religous belifes, its an isolated incident!
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This is very cruel. Human rights should be protected of everyone whether in prison or just drinking water from the wrong tap. I have feeling the parents of this kid must be wishing very sadly only if their son was photographed naked instead.
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Sardar Ji, is it still high noon?
How does this connect with abuse of prisoners in Iraq? Even so, people here have condemned this despicable act. Why don't you worry about the many untouchable children that get burned alive in India for everything from showing up for work five minutes late to looking at their masters "the wrong way".
Xtreme yaar it was for certain people bitching about - americans /whites being that way...just to give them some war fuzy feeling of reality at home.
What is found in Iraq is very heart breaking for most Americans...they can't believe it is happening. Every argument they can put in favor of war is washed away by these incidents. It is very shameful. It is disgusting. Bush and company has failed on two issues in this war very badly. a) No post war plan. They bragged like they have all figured out what to do after the war. Common people who supported the war even worried what after the war but it was claimed we have a plan. guess what there was no plan. b) Discipline problems with in some army sections doing such violations. This is a particular problem for America because America claimed to hold higher standards..otherwise these violations are standard practice in detention centers around the world.
How does this connect with abuse of prisoners in Iraq? Even so, people here have condemned this despicable act. Why don't you worry about the many untouchable children that get burned alive in India for everything from showing up for work five minutes late to looking at their masters "the wrong way".
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ah one little hit on ego and come down to racial jokes. very typical.
If you did not notice yet I left India behind 14 years ago. I don't defend it. Since you called me a sardar, show me one incident of either a) I defending India b) a sardar burried an un-touchable child.
If you can show either of it I concede to you otherwise don't consider 1 billion people of India one entity. If you do then don't cry baby if people streotype a billion muslims for actions of some.
Father kills infant in fit of rage
Our Correspondent
Amritsar, May 2
In a stunning incident, a man killed his two-month-old son in a fit of rage here last evening.
According to reports, Gurnam Singh of Deh village in Majitha police district, has a quarrel with his family over a minor issue. After sometime when his wife Gurjit Kaur gave her son to him to hold, he threw the baby against a wall, due to which the baby got serious head injury and died in Civil Hospital, Ajnala.
A case under Section 304 of the IPC has been registered.
a father kills his son in a fit of rage and is now rightly booked for the crime.
How does that say I am hiding un-touchables children being burried by my community because they came to work 5 mins late?(also remember the accusations implies it is done on a routine basis).
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My fault I shouldn't have given you the excuse to side step the issue.
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If you did not notice yet I left India behind 14 years ago. I don't defend it. Since you called me a sardar, show me one incident of either a) I defending India b) a sardar burried an un-touchable child.
If you can show either of it I concede to you otherwise don't consider 1 billion people of India one entity. If you do then don't cry baby if people streotype a billion muslims for actions of some.
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You left India 14 years ago and somehow Pakistan is still the mokey on your back? Excellent! The question you fail to answer is why choose an incident out of Pakistan? Ideally you should have compared the treatment of Iraqi prisoners to the treatment of prisoners in other countries (one of the more recent examples is the beating death of that journalist in Iran), but no there was a youth murdered by bigots in good old Pakistan so that must be parallel to the situation in Iraq somehow. If that murder is good enough for you to mention, then why not mention the fact that an Assistant Commisioner in India set fire to an untouchable youth for answering back? At least there is a modicum of parallelism no matter how tenuous. Even if you had mentioned one of the sisters from the Wisconsin National Guard who was killed or talked about the American Contractors or a host of other kidapped foreigners in Iraq, that would have given a veneer of sincerity to your argument, but why bother with such trivial matters when there is an oppurtunity to muddy Pakistan's name?
My point remains, the naked picture comment had absolutely nothing to do with this incident and was inserted in with motives other than serious discussion.
there was a time when every negative story about Pakistan and muslims used to make me want to post a retaliatory thread about Indians, Americans etc. There have been stories in the British press about child sacrifices in India, trigger happy yank soldiers in Iraq, and so on.
I am glad to hear that people of America find what happened in Iraq heart-breaking. Just your initial statement
"I have feeling the parents of this kid must be wishing very sadly only if their son was photographed naked instead"
didn't convey that to me at all. I am sure American people in general must feel regret over what has gone on...they are flesh and blood like the rest of us. What bothers me is the fact that the methods employed by the grunts was apparently encouraged by the top brass as a means to 'break' the prisoners.
See Xtreme, there is no question about shame and remorse that I as an american feel about the situation in Iraq with the prisnors. Infact we are so angry at the perpatrators and their superiors that we want to enact sharia.
There is no denial and no survey belives it is an arab conspiracy. We are going beyond simply punishing the folsk. there is acute root cause analysis being dne to see if the role of civilian contractors or ill trained troops to run military prisons is the wrong policy. There is no blame displacement and placating of responsibility.
This is how America works..if you have any questions just ask.
xtreme, it was not about whether I am apologetic or not or which country is worst when it comes to human rights. My post was a reply to people who can't see beyond US's violations. US is at war but some other places, like TT Singh, don't have this much excuse even. They will open thread after thread on Iraq but if I did not post this news, it would have never made to this web site.
What Chan? Don't you think i could post 10 threads a day about what is wrong in this country (England), obesity, binge drinking, paedophilia, etc. All topical and recent stuff. You want me to post this stuff so it will "make this website"?
Some things are global issues, some aren't. US violations are in the spotlight because they are the one's taking the lead global issues. Is that unfair?
Xtreme then be a good lad and post articles about how US provides the most aid to the muslim countries. even more so than all muslims GDP combined. that would be agood start to see this in perspective.
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My post was a reply to people who can't see beyond US's violations. US is at war but some other places, like TT Singh, don't have this much excuse even.
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I fail to the correlation. US being at war globally is a geo-political issue and it will make headlines on all major news sources and thus this website. You cant equate that with this incident in TT Singh, which is deplorable nonetheless.
