Chinese secret intelligence involved in helping Pakistan in Mumbai massacre?
Ishant Joshi
Jan. 1, 2009
Sources in China are eager not to call Pakistan any culprit. The shadow **ISI (the unofficial intelligence militia of Kiani) may have received direct help and intelligence from Chinese secret military intelligence in carrying out the Mumbai massacre. **
Beijing: Xinhua, the Chinese government run news agency, has blamed the “Deccan Mujahideen” for the attack on Mumbai that killed 172 people and injured nearly 300 others. It made no mention of India’s insistence that the terrorists came from Pakistan and were supported by forces in the neighboring country Pakistan.
The description of the incident fits in with the overall attitude of the Chinese official media to spare Pakistan of any blame for the incident. The local media has been giving a lot of play to defensive statements from Pakistani leaders while underplaying the charges made by India.
Chinese made advanced arms and ammunitions were used in carrying out the heinous act. There are indirect indications that Chinese military intelligence in India may have helped the rubber rafts coming into the Indian shore. India Navy is looking into the means these terrorists used to fool Indian coast guard deterrents.
**Some very advanced intelligence organization helped the terrorists and their sponsors to cause maximum panic and destruction with a limited resource. Pakistan’s ISI is not that capable just alone working with its mediocre intelligence and espionage personnel. **
China’s eagerness to protect Kiani of Pakistan raises some serious questions about Chinese involvement in Mumbai massacre. Sooner or later RAW and CBI will find out the secret Chinese connections but Indian public will be kept in the dark for international political reasons.
:rotfl: There you have it Ladies and Gentlemen. It was the Chinese because ISI is not capable on its own (anymore).
Err they forgot to add “Ninjas were seen fleeing the shore shortly after delivering the culprits who would then mount buildings Spiderman style and thus escaped the authorities”. Now that’s more like it.
Whatever this Joshi fellow is smoking must be some real good stuff. :sunnyboy:
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The most accepted proof is Hindutva terrorists are capable of doing another attack within India. Evidence is plenty. So is the denial.
Indian Media's going bonkers because they just don't know which story to stick with, everyone has a version to offer, everyone has a story to tell. The investigation is still on-going, and India has not provided Pakistan with official and credible proof (hand-written letters under pressure are not considered proof by any legitimate court). Nuff said! :)
The most accepted proof is Hindutva terrorists are capable of doing another attack within India. Evidence is plenty. So is the denial.
Indian Media's going bonkers because they just don't know which story to stick with, everyone has a version to offer, everyone has a story to tell. The investigation is still on-going, and India has not provided Pakistan with official and credible proof (hand-written letters under pressure are not considered proof by any legitimate court). Nuff said! :)
What about Ajmal's father's statements? (RAW? MOSSAD creation? Father was paid off?)
International journalists interviewing Ajmal's village people?
International acceptance by british and american media of Pakistani involvement? (Infidel conspiracy?)
Pakistan's action on LET/JUD centers?
Bring on the retarded theories once more. I shall laugh once more.
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^^ Pakistan just seems to be buying time to hide whatever crap they can hide. DAWN has reported the Pakistan link MANY times. International media has done the same. All clues point towards Pakistan yet all you shoot back with is retarded RAW/MOSSAD theories or 'Oh wait investigation is not finished'. You just DONT WANT TO accept that you have jihadi cousins who have India on their hit list. The funny part is that these jihadi scums (or related organizations) have YOU (the common peace wanting Pakistani, if you are one) on their hitlist too. Yet you do all you can, believe all you can, and propagate all you can just to defend them.
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You should control your Hindutva extremist cousins and tell your media to stop blaming everyone on the block except itself.
Pakistan has, is, and will fight terrorism on its own front. Pakistan has lost more lives than others in the region or the world due to terrorism, so others needn't lecture it on how it feels to be threatened.
The matter of the fact, and purpose of this thread is to highlight how ridiculous Indian media has started to sound when it just shoots around like a loose cannon with no specific factual target in sight. And this article doesn't really help India's case in wanting others to assist it in countering terrorism because it just shows that India is ready to blame any and everyone that disagrees with in on the slightest, while totally keeping the blame off itself. Sometimes it's good to look at one's reflection in the mirror to fix issues that reside within. Especially considering what a superb job Indian investigative teams did the last time and found the real culprits at last. All the Pakistani govt. and Chinese govt. are asking is that India do the same kind of un-biased and honest investigation, and if it accuses others, then share evidence so everyone can get on-board and honestly get it over with.
Pakistan has been more than willing to comply and work on a joint investigation, as well as assist India. India just seems to be ticked because everyone's starting to somewhat understand Pakistan's position and turning on India to do more on its end and cooperate with Pakistan and reach a solution to this instead of dilly dallying while shooting off irresponsible statements every other day.
It's not about "my" jihadi cousins or my other peace-loving fellow pakistanis, it's about Indian media's overhyped blunder that just doesn't seem to be stopping. Git it?
PS: China probably won't even take this joker of an author seriously, but it sure does say alot about the intellect of Indian media. :)
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^^ Dude I am not here to defend the Indian media. India is a country of more than a billion. There are going to be idiots in every sphere of life. The Indian media is notorious for exaggerating ( exaggeration is usually an underestimate ) every little thing and stretching it as much as they can (just like the Indian soaps). There are 10-15 news channels churning out news nonstop (I don't think any other country has that many stations). It's a constant battle for viewership. It's a business! They will do whatever they can to come up with more BREAKING NEWS. It's CNN style, indianized. The Indian govt. or all the people are not to be blamed for any retardedness thats shot off the media.
But all this doesn't change the fact that Pakistanis are doing all they can to deny and protect their Jihadi cousins, does it? The international media has accepted Pakistani involvement and there have been dozens of things reinforcing the sentiment. Your own politicians have admitted it and then retracted their statements. Your own govt. has taken actions against some of these organizations (although that seems nothing like a drama to please Big daddy USA). Yet we see nonstop denial and 'controversy' theories from the Pakistanis. Very disappointing. We should be fighting this fight against the Jihadis together. This is not just your problem. Get your act together and clean your mess up or else sooner or later big daddy USA or 'arch rival' India will be coming in to help you clean it.
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I understand that. But even in the business sense, there has to be some sort of responsibility or guideline for the media. Otherwise india loses the claim of saying "it's Pakistan media creating war hype".
Anyways.
Moving on, now you say "we" should be fighting terrorists. By that do you mean India will ban RSS and arrest all its affiliates? That sure would convince the world that India is extremely serious about keeping the nation clean of extremists, regardless of their religion.
I think they should ban all recreational drugs available to “journalists”.