Tough talk.. Remember what happened last time?!?! :D
off course...we lost and were defeated very badly.
are you taught of your state' defeats by your teachers? it is off the topic.
no problem...let china try once again. india has enough military power..and dont think that we have aquired this military power against pakistan....in our top beurocratic circles...you stand no where....our enemy is china.
..and dont think that we have aquired this military power against pakistan....in our top beurocratic circles...you stand no where....our enemy is china.
LOL...you just broke his heart :)
LOL… Big talk little Indian… 
Lol. Your enemy is your own arrogance.
Bottom line is you could hardly deal with Pakistan, the Chinese will ride over you like you werent even there:)
Reality check my friend. Talk is cheap, but your record speaks for itself:hehe:
I do not think China has the will to engage in another war with India.
So Indian Nuke Submarine is giving you sleepless nights. :p
I dont think its a lack of will, but rather a lack of necessity. China has better things to do then actually rape India a second time.
The Nuke Sub I had to mention considering its one of the biggest "accomplishment" in self delusion, since the beginning of Indian hsitory. You should remmebr there is a quantitave and very likely a qualitative difference between you and China, expecially in the field of Nuke subs.
:)
Are you mentioning abt 1962 war?It was not a full fledged battle that both sides fought.The battle was sporadic ad the theatres were very different. Moreover Chinese also suffered huge casualities.India's foreign policy and it's approach to national security during those times were oblique and fragile.
I still believe had India effectively made use of Air sorties that U.S provided in the final days of the war,the picture would have been different.Moreover poor communication facilities,poor maintenance of supply routes and chains and a spineless government all ditched our effforts.
But still ,1962 fiasco was an eye opener. In three years we fought another war and achived significant results and in less than ten years we garnered a great victory :)
Make as many excuses as you want, but the bottom line is your were raped rather painfully.
The other wars India fought, I should remind you was against a foe thats was considerably smaller. None the less, India could only accomplish a stale mate in the first. Ten years later, India won not because of Indias own capacity, but due to circumstances overwhelmingly in favor of India.
So for the record, India has performed relatively poorly against a much smaller adversary, and yet here you claim to be ready for a much larger enemy, and one thats already beaten you quite soundly:)
I hope the pakistanis realize that it is in China's self interest to have Indians and Pakistanis killing each other. No superpower wants nclear armed neighbors that are prospering.
I hope the pakistanis realize that it is in China's self interest to have Indians and Pakistanis killing each other. No superpower wants nclear armed neighbors that are prospering.
Perhaps, but its so much more fun to rub in Indias face:)
Tough talk.. Remember what happened last time?!?! :D
was it 1971???
reminds me of a dialogue from monsoon wedding:
g#### mein ##### nahi, and chale hain suaron ko dawat dene...
India has been winning for last one thousand years and can win again hands down.. go india go…
India no match for China, says Navy chief- Hindustan Times
India no match for China, says Navy chief:
New Delhi, Tuesday, August 11, 2009: Should war break out between India and China, we are doomed.
Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta publicly admitted on Monday that India was no match for China and there was no way New Delhi could bridge the yawning gap in its capabilities against China.
He said it would be foolhardy to compare the two nations as equals.
Mehta, who retires on August 31 at the age of 62, warned: “In military terms, both conventionally and unconventionally, we can neither have the capability nor the intention to match China force for force…”
lol at the e- strategists on this forum.
India’s China Problem
Gordon G. Chang, 08.14.09, 12:01 AM EDT
As it catches up to its neighbor and arch-rival, India finds its safety compromised.
India’s China Problem - Forbes.com
China and India wrapped up their 13th round of border talks on Saturday in New Delhi. The meeting produced agreements on various matters, such as the installation of a hot line between the Chinese and Indian capitals and plans to celebrate 60 years of diplomatic ties next year. The two nations also agreed to expand bilateral trade, hoping to meet their target of $60 billion for 2010, a substantial increase over last year’s $51.8 billion.
Yet there was no progress when it came to the main subject for discussion–competing territorial claims in Arunachal Pradesh and Aksai Chin. Beijing and New Delhi are no closer to settling disputes that led the two giants to war in 1962 and that have, in recent years, hampered relations. Chinese officials see their nation on the rise and feel no need to compromise. The number of incursions by China’s troops into Indian-controlled territory appears to be increasing.
India, generally acknowledged as the weaker of the two, has tried to maintain cordial ties, often following former Prime Minister Nehru’s “Hindi-Chini bhai-bhai” slogan, promoting the notion that the two Asian nations are brothers. Beijing, for its part, has been under no such delusions, playing a hard game. In the middle of the 1970s, it began helping Pakistan build a nuclear weapon to keep arch-rival India off balance. Since then, the Chinese have supported Islamabad’s campaign of terror against the Indian state.
The terrorists attacking Mumbai hotels last November used Chinese equipment–the distinctively blue Type 86 grenades, manufactured by China’s state-owned Norinco, which has continually supplied parties working with militants inside India. China has given Pakistan most of the ordinance that its notorious Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence–better known as ISI–gives to terrorist groups. Almost all of the sophisticated communications equipment used by terrorists in India, especially Kashmir, is Chinese-made and was routed through the Pakistani army. The training the Chinese give to Pakistani personnel is, with Beijing’s knowledge, leached to terrorists. Furthermore, in April and May 2006, May 2007 and August 2008, China blocked U.N. sanctions against and censure of Lashkar-e-Taiba and its front, Jammat-ud-Dawa, the organizations responsible for the horrible hotel attacks.
No wonder the Indians are starting to reassess their ties with Beijing. Although it is unlikely the Chinese will attack India before 2012, as Bharat Verma, editor of India’s leading defense journal, predicted last month, the Indians can expect tougher Chinese actions in the years ahead.
This month, Zhan Lue, a Chinese analyst connected to China’s Ministry of National Defense, suggested that Beijing try to divide India into as many as 30 states. The article, unfortunately, appears to represent the thinking of Chinese strategists and has been widely circulated inside China.
Breaking up India is about the only thing Beijing can do to keep pace with its subcontinent rival. The Chinese today are proud they inhabit the most populous state on earth, but, due to their brutally enforced one-child policy and other factors, the Chinese population will level off sometime around 2030, according to official Beijing estimates. India, at about that time, will take over the top ranking. And thanks to an extreme gender imbalance, the number of Chinese citizens will plummet soon thereafter
Demographic trends are not the only problem for China. As India’s population nips at China’s heels, its economy is also taking off. Starting liberalization later than China, India has appeared to be a laggard. But now India is consistently posting big increases in gross domestic product. In the most recently concluded fiscal year, the country’s GDP growth came in at 6.7%. Beijing’s National Bureau of Statistics claims higher growth, but its numbers are overstated. Moreover, the Chinese have an export-led model that is particularly ill-suited to current global conditions while the Indians have a more balanced economy bound to outperform China’s in the years ahead.
There are other reasons for the Chinese to feel nervous. India, turning away from Nehru’s “non-aligned” orientation, is finding powerful new friends, such as the U.S. The growing partnership between the world’s largest democracy and its most powerful one suggests an enormous setback for Chinese plans to destabilize New Delhi. The democracies in Asia may not yet be ready to formally create an “arc of freedom” to defend themselves, but nations in the region are increasingly concerned about Beijing’s hostility and aggressiveness. We can expect, therefore, the states to China’s south and east to continue to grow closer together. The Indians do not want to be anyone’s pawn in containing an apparently rising China, but they are beginning to find common cause with Beijing’s neighbors nonetheless.
Whether or not the Chinese teach India “the final lesson” by launching an attack, Verma’s advice about strengthening the country’s northern border seems prudent. Just three days after the border talks with New Delhi ended in failure, the Chinese started the two-month long “Stride-2009,” their “largest-ever tactical military exercise.” Designed to improve the country’s “long-range force projection,” the massive war game is sending a message to India, especially because it appears troops will be sent to bordering Tibet. In 1962, China’s People’s Liberation Army surprised India with its ability to fight in hostile terrain far from its bases. Now, the PLA wants to improve its ability to do so.
The real danger to India is not the heightened readiness of the Chinese army or even the improvement in its capabilities. In May, Fali Homi Major, then India’s air force chief, said China posed more of a threat than Pakistan to his country. He was widely criticized in New Delhi and forced to retract his remarks. The Indian government, however, will not be able to defend its borders until its officials can start talking in public about the dangers it faces. India and China should be friends and brothers, but at this moment they are not.
Gordon G. Chang is the author of The Coming Collapse of China. He writes a weekly column for Forbes
Re: China should disintegrate India: Strategist
Chinese are a bunch of unworthy people.They will not harm you.Just do not give them extra weightage.That's all.
Re: China should disintegrate India: Strategist
Indian Media and few persons are giving it unnecessary attention, maybe there is a "community" which is short of money and is looking forward to "Shop" for new military gadgets, making sure for their retirement fund...
In case this threat is real, then the Indian govt. should take counter measures, they should think on the grounds that why China was able to win the trust of all its neighbors, why the neighboring states are giving China all it needs? why not India can have same level of trust and cooperation??? this is something that Indian govt. officials have to think if the Chinese threat is real, otherwise they can have some procurement contracts; some commission and all it right...
India should be worried..............
China could take over and rename it........"Budhistan"...............:D
Re: China should disintegrate India: Strategist
hello.......bunch of monkeys out there...............
hehehe
Make as many excuses as you want, but the bottom line is your were raped rather painfully. The other wars India fought, I should remind you was against a foe thats was considerably smaller. None the less, India could only accomplish a stale mate in the first. Ten years later, India won not because of Indias own capacity, but due to circumstances overwhelmingly in favor of India.
So for the record, India has performed relatively poorly against a much smaller adversary, and yet here you claim to be ready for a much larger enemy, and one thats already beaten you quite soundly:)
Wrong.During 60's both India and Pakistan had had almost simililar military capability.In India National security was not at all a concern and it was kept at bay from the public.
In war,do you think one side should allow the other side to come to terms and then start the war?If one side wants to start war,they will decide and reckon the favourable conditions to their advantage and then start the process.
For ex:In 1971,Inda had to wait till Bangla people scuttle Pak army in East pakistan ,get international support,make sure Soviet help and then pressurise Pakistan to start the war.To which Pakistan was snared and the result ,we all know what was it :)
Otherwise,what do you think?Should we have waited till your supply lines reach Dhaka all the way from Pakistan,you get materilaistic support from U.S,support from islamic countries,your Ghazi to reach Chittagong and then we should seek permission from you to start the war?
Chinese are a bunch of unworthy people.They will not harm you.Just do not give them extra weightage.That's all.
i dont agree with ur statement .............. considering the work of chinese ppl in pakistan.
like shah rae karakaram, chashma nuclear power project, gawader port, works on different dams. my father is in the construction field. and they have got opportunity to work with the chinese ppl many times.
According to him chinese are very hardworking, intelligent and efficent ppl.
plus china has successfully helped pakistan on several military project .........
Wrong.During 60's both India and Pakistan had had almost simililar military capability.
kaisi batain kar rahay ho ...........