china and religen

how much china benefits form lack of religious discord and argument
and waste of time. people are not fighting over religen like in india ,pakistan and mid-east.

Re: china and religen

i am not at all fully certain but i think the people of Tibet and Xinjiang might disagree with the above. :confused: Do we really have genuine religious rights in China today ?

Re: Re: china and religen

i am talking about conflicts that threaten the stability and economic progress or hoding the country back due to relgious conflicts that is
endemic in south asia and mid-east.
do you think they have to follow south asian model of nationhood
based on religens ?

Well, from our perspectives, China's repression of Tibetans and Uighur Muslims may not be holding the country back financially and isn't leading to serious destabilization. But if you ask a Tibetan or a person from Xinjiang, i'm sure s/he will have a different perspective on what's 'destabilizing' and what's not. When you feel you are persecuted and harassed only because of your religious perspectives, that can feel pretty damn destabilizing i would imagine.

Khair. In regards to your last question, the way i interpret its message - my answer is no. By the way in your first sentence in this thread you wrote, how much china benefits - IMHO it's not "China" that is benefiting. It's a select group, not ALL of the peoples of China have equally benefitted.

i could be wrong, this is just my personal opinion, so no one kill me.

That's a myth of communism.. there is no atheist state. You can repress whatever you want, but it'll always find a way to survive. Whether or not that thing's survival becomes hazardous to the state is really a complex issue and usually not an independent one (ie, other factors play a role and that issue, religion or unionization etc, only serves as a catalyst for existing discontent to manifest).

Specifically regarding China, their gov't sure does seem to believe the Falun Gong are dangerous to their political survival. The Tibetans and Uigurs, etc aren't really organized enough to affect a change or even apply much pressure on the Chinese gov't. It's not that their respective religions aren't powerful enough, more just cultural issues that keep them from unifying in a way to throw off China's hold--that and China's repressive measures do work. The greater Muslim world still finds itself subject to Western economic whims because they argue about every subject, religious and worldly. The Chinese minorities have the same problem in relation to the Chinese gov't.

Another thing to remember, talking about conflicts that threaten the stability and economic progress.. we don't get that news in the mainstream media. There are attacks in the northwest on gov't property every other day. In the south there are dissidents (Falun Gong are the popular ones now) being arrested and tried every day. This stuff is happening. You just don't hear about it often. Remeber how long it took to hear about the sunken sub? or their reaction to SARS? Even with their feigned economic openness, it is a closed state.

Think of muslim pioneers. I bet nobody was more successful than them. Hazrat Muhammed (PBUH) and his companion, they were religious and islam and muslim travelled from rough deserts of Saudi Arabia to Spain. I reackon thats remarkable.
No offence intented but people in pakistan just love to argue if it won't be religion it would be something else. Unity is what we lack i don't think by cutting or restricting religious thinking success will be achieved. Infact quite contrary.

Disclaimers: totally my personal opinions based on my limited experience of world and limited knowledge. No offence intented, and i sincerely apologize if i did manage to offend any anyone. Please don't bite my head off.