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China has 22 ICBM's that may reach the USA. We have a few thousand that will reach China. As to our air force reaching China no problem going anyplace in the world...
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Ex-Navy, if that was the case then why is it that the United States had a very, very sorry airplane incident with China not to long ago? :)
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Ex-Navy, if that was the case then why is it that the United States had a very, very sorry airplane incident with China not to long ago? :)
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Geez, I don't remember China even thinking about taking on the greatest fighting force in the world. They have numbers but nothing else going for them.
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Geez, I don't remember China even thinking about taking on the greatest fighting force in the world.
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Geez, I actually remember how it was the United States who had to so humiliatingly admit how very, very sorry it was for flying its spy planes in Chinese air space. So it was the United States who has never dared take on China again, lest it end up in another such sorry situation. :)
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Geez, I actually remember how it was the United States who had to so humiliatingly admit how very, very sorry it was for flying its spy planes in Chinese air space. So it was the United States who has never dared take on China again, lest it end up in another such sorry situation. :)
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If you truly believe the USA has even slowed down the spy planes over Chinese air space you are far more naive than you originally appeared to be.
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If you truly believe the USA has even slowed down the spy planes over Chinese air space you are far more naive than you originally appeared to be.
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Now now Ex-Navy or is it Ex-Air Force now? do tell us whose plane went down so humiliatingly in China, and who ended up saying it was very, very sorry to get its airman released? :)
Btw, how much success did the mighty American airforce have in Indo-China, back in the 1960's and 1970's? Though, I do remember an American helicopter successfully taking off from Saigon...oops Ho Chi Minh City in 1975. :)
Just compare the conventional forces of PRC and USA in terms of qualitive arms and technological progression.
USA enjoys such an advantage in WMD's, numerically and qualitively, that these are out of the question for PRC, unless it wants to lose all its population.
Ex-army is 100% correct here, the US is the sole superpower in military terms.
I post military threads all the time, with links and facts and URL's and quoates, but no one hardly replies to it. i have one recently on US naval war games and Pakistani Plutonium projects. Check them out.
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Now now Ex-Navy or is it Ex-Air Force now? do tell us whose plane went down so humiliatingly in China, and who ended up saying it was very, very sorry to get its airman released? :)
Btw, how much success did the mighty American airforce have in Indo-China, back in the 1960's and 1970's? Though, I do remember an American helicopter successfully taking off from Saigon...oops Ho Chi Minh City in 1975. :)
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And the point is? Do you agree it has not changed a thing. China had a chance to open up on the US and backed down, returned the plane and we still invade thier air space every single day. Action not words make the country.
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returned the plane
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Could you tell us in what state the Chinese returned the plane? :)
Btw, who said it was very, very sorry. China or the US?
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Could you tell us in what state the Chinese returned the plane? :)
Btw, who said it was very, very sorry. China or the US?
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You still don't get it do you, action not words dude.
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You still don't get it do you, action not words dude.
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Now, now tell us how the Chinese returned the plane to the US? Also, please do enlighten on us what 'actions' your much touted greatest fighting force in the world took when China had your plane, apart from pleading how very, very sorry it was? :)
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Now, now tell us how the Chinese returned the plane to the US? Also, please do enlighten on us what 'actions' your much touted greatest fighting force in the world took when China had your plane, apart from pleading how very, very sorry it was? :)
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The US took the right approach. First a war with China would be a set back to both countries that will not happen in our lifetime.
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Now, now tell us how the Chinese returned the plane to the US? Also, please do enlighten on us what 'actions' your much touted greatest fighting force in the world took when China had your plane, apart from pleading how very, very sorry it was? :)
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I thought the monkey in the white house said the plane was a sovereign territory. LOL..!!!!
i am very, very sorry that an obsession with degrading and insulting the US can cloud one's judgement into think that the US is not the greatest fighting force in the world. The only thing Great China is great at is supressing its people (including its Muslim population) into submission and assimilation. They are not a great military threat to the US.
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i am **very, very sorry* that an obsession with degrading and insulting the US can cloud one's judgement into think that the US is not the greatest fighting force in the world.
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Yes, remember how the "greatest fighting force in the world" had captured all of North Korea, right up to the China border, but then Chinese army stormed through the Yellow river and chased the American army right down back to the South? Or do you remember how the "greatest army in the world" used practically all its military might in bombing almost the whole of Indo-China i.e. Vietnam to smitherenes, but was still so humiliatingly chased out. :) The "greatest army in the world" is more adept at killing tens of thousands of Muslim men, women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and other places.
Whenever it takes on China, its immediate neighbours and interests it has ended up very, very sorry indeed. In fact "sovereign American territory" is returned to it in bits, and its army chased left, right and centre. :)
Some hi-lights on Korean war… After recieving red carpet treatment at the hands of Koreans and Vietnamise I don’t think US will ever look that way again not until the sore ass is healed. Now who ever told the yanks to cross the 38th parallel and advance all the way to the Chinese border.. The 4 footers started kicking GI Joes ass all the way back to the 38th parallel. Damn that is lot of ass kicking. LOL !
Q) Why did PRC send troops to Korea?
PRC’s intervention in Korea was primarily precipitated by its own security concerns. In his telegram to premier Zhou Enlai on Oct. 13 1950, Chinese leader Mao Zedong summarized the the rationale for sending troops to repel advancing US forces: if PRC did not take the initiative, then US forces would press on China along the Yalu river, China’s northeastern defense force would be pinned down, Southern Manchuria’s power supply (generated from hydroelectric plants in North Korea) would be controlled by hostile forces, and the situation would resulted in the uprising of domestic and international “reactionary elements”.
Furthermore, Chinese leaders had the conviction that US led western forces was trying to strangle the new China by a blockade starting from Korea and ending at Vietnam. Since a contest with US would be inevitable, ** it was desirable to teach the Americans a lesson as early as possible, ** besides, it was far more advantageous to fight US in Korea than in the Taiwan straits or Vietnam.
Contrary to western wisdom, Soviet Union did not mastermind the Chinese participation in the war. Stalin refused to offer much support to the Chinese. China had to pay for all its weapon purchases from USSR plus interests.
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If you truly believe the USA has even slowed down the spy planes over Chinese air space you are far more naive than you originally appeared to be.
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Infact, you would be naive to think that the greatest farting machine can just simply level China with concentration bombing, like they did in Afghanistan. The threat of just a single ICBM landing on the west coast of US is enough to keep the US far away from any such adventures. Spy planes? yah they can fly them a few miles above China, who cares?
Thank you for that interesting link Abdali. 
More on the ongoing China, US, Taiwan saga..
Beijing warns U.S. against role in Taiwan war games](http://www.etaiwannews.com/World/2003/01/04/1041652031.htm) Taiwan News 04 Jan 03
China warned the United States yesterday against taking part in Taiwan’s annual war games, saying any form of military cooperation with the island would hurt Washington’s ties with Beijing. “The Chinese side has made solemn representation with the U.S. side,” a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman said in a statement made available to Reuters.
The spokesman was asked to comment on remarks by Taiwan’s Vice defense Minister Chen Chao-min before parliament on Thursday that the U.S. military was likely to participate in the 2003 Han Kung, or Chinese Glory, exercises currently being planned.
**“Any form of military exchange and cooperation between the United States and Taiwan will bring harm to China-U.S. relations,” the spokesman said. Beijing has asked Washington to stop all forms of military exchanges, he said. He did not comment further. **
Washington switched diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979, but remains the island’s main arms supplier and trading partner.
In 2001, President George W. Bush offered to sell Taiwan diesel-electric submarines, Kidd-class destroyers and 12 P-3C Orion aircraft in the biggest arms sales in a decade.
Taiwan’s China Times newspaper, quoting unidentified sources, said on Thursday U.S. military personnel would be present at Taiwan’s military command center during this year’s Han Kuang drills, usually held in the summer. But to avoid controversy, U.S. participation would be in the name of preparation for a possible evacuation of American expatriates from the island, the daily reported.