For a separate discussion (I mean, separate from gupshup), I am trying to look for a study about psychological problems among the children of gay parents. There are a lot of studies out there about the problems faced by gay people, though very little information is out there about how their kin go through this problem. Especially if they have kids, or adopt some. Though there is substantial information about problems faced by kids with single parent.
As far as gay parents are concerned, I am not much interested in the studies that focus on the children’s interaction with other kids or the pressure, hatred and at time persecution they face from the outside world, but mainly on how well they emotionally handle not having a mother or a father. In many ways having a single parent is not very different than having two-homosexual parents, no? Throughout my life, my mother and my father had a significant role to play which I can’t see the other handling very well. This leads me to believe that children brought up by homosexual parents will be at a disadvantage, just like the ones brought up by single parent.
Well, I guess now it’s not hard for someone to figure out that my discussion is about gay couples’ adoption rights. If someone wants to discuss that here, I am open to debate. Though my primary reason for this thread was to ask help for finding such studies, if they are out there.
well there is currenly that gay millionaire couple in the UK who used a surrogate mother in the US.......they have three children, a set of twins and a newborn boy. I've read quite a few interviews and the children seem really happy albeit a little spolit (the 3 year old daughter had a prada handbag and the boy is friends with Brooklyn)
The couple argue that the children have plenty of female influences in their lives from all the female relatives they baoth have plus a couple of nannies. The children call one father 'daddy' and the other 'dad'
I guess, like with most things, only time will tell.
She had the kids with the father, but then they divorced, they still stayed as good friends though and afterwards she "hooked up" with her new partner. They have been togeather for years now and the kids still see the father.
There are stories, that boys raised by two moms are not manly enough? I don't know if any is true, but years ago I read an interview of a teenager, who had a hard time, becuase he was being raised by two mothers. I wonder if that would be good for hte child, apart from the fact that it's a sin.
if homosexual parents give their children the right upbringing.. and allow them the choice of religion as well... then i think its fine...
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Are you kidding ?
Homoism is a sickness and is NOT allowed in any orthodox religion. Clearly it is not allowed in our Is-lam. how can sick homos teach "their" children religion, when they are going to be brainwashed and over exposed to homosexualism which is not allowed in any true religion?
Anyway homosexuals have no "children". They adopt children and hence they are not biologically theirs. That is why homosexualism is also anti-natural.
Homoism is a sickness and is NOT allowed in any orthodox religion. Clearly it is not allowed in our Is-lam. how can sick homos teach "their" children religion, when they are going to be brainwashed and over exposed to homosexualism which is not allowed in any true religion?
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how do u know 'homoism' is a sickness? and why cant 'sick homos' teach their kids religion? if an alcoholic can... if a murderer can... if we can then why not a homosexual? and whose to say that that person will teach their kids a distorted view??
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Anyway homosexuals have no "children". They adopt children and hence they are not biologically theirs. That is why homosexualism is also anti-natural.
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i dont get ur last paragraph.... how does not having ur own kids relate to homosexuals being anti-natural? there are millions of people out there who cannot have their own kids... and either adopt or go thru IVF... what do u say to that?
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how do u know 'homoism' is a sickness? and why cant 'sick homos' teach their kids religion? if an alcoholic can... if a mu-rderer can... if we can then why not a homosexual? and whose to say that that person will teach their kids a distorted view??
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I highly doubt that a prostitute or a homosexual or a person who practices bestiality (sex with animal) would teach their kids religion. whats the point of it, if he is doing everything that religion is against.
And yes homoism is a sickness. In throughout human history, the most nastiest thing you can do to a person is to have anal sex with him to piss him off. But I guess that sick fags are doing this.
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i dont get ur last paragraph.... how does not having ur own kids relate to homosexuals being anti-natural? there are millions of people out there who cannot have their own kids... and either adopt or go thru IVF... what do u say to that?
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Sex is nature's way to continue humanity. Our body parts have special purpose. eyes is to see and genitals are there to reproduce. sextual reproduction is natural, but homo sex is anti-nature.
Have you ever seen animals having sex with the same sex ? Have you seen female cow having sex with a female cow or male monkey having sex with a male monkey? These animals are cleaner than fags.
And the next time you gonna come here and tell us bestiality ( sex with animals ) is alright. :(
^ dont make assumptions about me or anyone else pls..
i didnt say homosexuality was right.. im just saying its not a sickness.. and how can u make that generalisation that prostitutes and homosexuals cannot teach religion? what makes u say that ur kids are going to grow up with a better understanding of this world and Islam (or any other religion) then a kid whose been raised by a homosexual?
about anal sex and reproduction..... well lets just skip the anal bit.... so ur telling me u aint going to have sex with ur wife/hubby unless its for reproduction? who says homosexuals have sex? what if they accept that they are what they are but dont commit any act?
im not trying to state that its the right thing to do... lekin im not going to condemn God's creation.... its not up to me to be the judge of another
I guess most of the people here do not represent an average Pak-istani from Pak-istan. Most people who are here are either "westernized" over-seas Pakistani liberals or non-pak-istanis who do not share mainstream Pak-istani thinking.
Anyone has the ability to teach religion, however in a homosexual's case they wouldn't be practicing what they preach. How could they? They can either say that homosexuality is ok (which it clearly isn't in Islam), or they can say that it's wrong, in which case they have no right to be preaching since they woudlnt' be practicing what they preach.
I don't know why this discussion turned religious. Maybe I didn't do a good enough job in explaining my intentions in the first post.
The question was simple; it's widely agreed that even though children of single parents don't grow up to be crazy or dysfunctional, they are at a significant disadvantage to those with both parents alive and together. That is why in all societies, even if the parents are divorced they are expected to be given joint custody & 'good' parents are expected to be involved with their children. Which leads me to believe that children of samesex parents will also be at a disadvantage.
Now, one can argue that it's the number (two) that counts, not the gender & give his/her reasoning for it. Or that if it's allowed for single parents to adopt, why not let the homosexuals do it.
Though my primary reason for this thread was to ask help for finding such studies, if they are out there.