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Here is our daycare experience :) may or may not help your question.

we didn't want out son going to a regular daycare that would be cramped with kids so we started looking and hoped to get something through some reliable sources' reference and we found one pakistani lady, with a licensed daycare, her charges were no less than a regular daycare. She seemed very polite and clean, and was highly recommended by my inlaws' very close friend in mississauga. My son cried like hell when he went there and she started complaining about him not taking naps without creating a fuss etc. I was like ok may be it takes 2-3 weeks atleast to get used to a new environment. Then I started noticing that his bag used to come all messed up...he used to come home messy, this is after a week, and he used to be very cranky after coming home :( AND THEN by the end of first week/early second week he would start crying as soon as I would turn in her street and throw up after as soon as we would enter her house :( he was 13months I dont think he was making it all up :( I used to cry after dropping him off, then we started looking for alternative because we didn't think he was liking it there.

Before we made our final decision, we had a talk with her, she told us it is hard to cook with my son crying in the back ground, that was the last thing we needed, to change the daycare. We had a talk with her before we put our son there and mentioned all these activities indoor/outdoor she does with kids, but in those 2 weeks my son was there had not done any because she 'didnt find time'. Mind you the cooking referred to above is not for kids, we used to send food with kids, it was her own home cooking..

We found someone through familyday, that was also a homebased daycare, she had 2 full time and 2 part time kids. SHe was a grandmother and looked kind of cold with thick nufi accent (sorry no offence :)) but kids were very comfortable around her whenever kids were taking to her she gave them undivided attention but also told them when they have something to say then they should come and say excuse me etc she had the routine and menu set for the whole week so the parents wouldn't be guessing where my child would be or what he/she might be doing, we were desperate so we thought we would give her a try and within a week she turned out to be AMAZING and very very organized...

My son used to come home clean, her things all organized if I needed to send any of his supplies she used to send me note atleast 4-5 days in advance, used to wash my son after every pee/pop he was there for a year and never had a rash, she was just thing amazing woamn whose 'job' during those hours when kids were there to take care of them and not do her own chores, she used to take breaks in between when kids were napping but still be with them..my son was the fussiest sleeper, but he used to just lay down and not make a fuss when other kid was napping, she trained him nicely in so many ways...her space for kids used to be clean, toys used to be clean, and she used to take kids out every single day unless it was too hot or cold. After about couple of months when I used to go to pick him up he would cling to her which was a big surprise for us. We told her that we don't eat pork (because she used cook for kids too) she had my sons dishes clearly marked, I mean she did whatever in her knowledge and strength to make my sons time there as comfortable and productive as possible.

So I think when parents go to interview care taker you should see how she/he is interacting with kids, ask whatever questions you may have and try to talk to references if possible. Family day does their own reference checks...
I wouldn't send my kids to a commercial daycare doesn't matter how clean, nicely done, expensive it might be...this is just my opinion...hope yo find a very good babysitter/daycare for your child.

What part of GTA are yo in SGC??

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she works too!
i'm trying to convince my parents to move closer to us. right now they're 45 minutes away and not too willing to give up their neighborhood.

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dosa, i'm around st. clair and bathurst, in forest hill.

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^ well you live a v nice neighbourhood finding a good family friendly kind of babysitter or daycare should not be a problem. When we used to live around leslie and york mills my cousin used our address to get her daughter enrolled in one of the neighbourhood school daycare, I don't remember if it was denlow or bond st one, some good schools have very good day care attached to it, may be that option would be worth exploring in your area schools..

I used to be worried too, but inshallah it will all work out :)

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**oh wow...maashaa Allah...she works and keeps fit...great! :)

i can understand her hesitation. once you've lived in a nice neighbourhood, it's hard to move out. may be after retirement she'll move closer to you iA if that's NOT too far off.** :)


*oh wow...i used to work in your neighbourhood :) 4 years ago i worked at Ministry of Environment, 135 St. Clair Ave. W...i was there for about 4 months working on a project...i loved the area... :) *

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Moms or MIL looking after kids are fine but they shouldnt be held responsible for providing care for such young children in their old age. Plus i dont think my MIL or mom could keep up with my very active and clingy toddler for the whole day. kids thrive with other kids in a healthy social setting, plus they need a structured day with activities. If mom/MIL is going to feed the kid and plop them infront of the tv then its no good. I like that at my daughter's day care, she gets to go out and play in the play area or play with water, make bubbles etc. Twice a month they have a lady come from teh public library to read a story. Stuff like that, that i think only a professional can provide, IMO.

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SGC, for your little toddler next year, have you considered hiring a professional nanny who comes to your home?

A friend of mine hired a nanny to come home from 7 am through 6 pm while she was at work. This lady was CPR certified, all police records in order, knew how to drive, could do light cooking and laundry, play with the kid, read to him, put him to bed in his own crib, etc etc. It was a great arrangement for 2 years after which they moved on to a private daycare.

As far as the expenses, I think she paid about $1200/month, but received clean, healthy, personal care for her child in the comfort of her own home. Of course you'd go through a registered agency.

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I was thinking the exact same thing Ira. Children need to be around other kids, or they get bored. Even at the age of 2. Do you want your child to have a really difficult transition when they start full-time school (which is around age 3)? I wanted my son to get used to be around other kids, learn from each other, learn structure, how to listen to a 'teacher' and alhamdullilah, he's doing great! He has a full-time nani ammi at home, but he would never get that stimulation he needs to develop at home all alone with my mom.

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Can't beat the nanny experience. Also,the nanny could take the child to pre schoolclasses that begin as young as 18 months if socialiazation with other kids is an issue.

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he's waitlisted at all of the infant daycare programs in the area, so we'll see what happens when he's closer to 1 insha'Allah. there aren't that many in the area, actually, and as far as home daycares, i'll have to look into the links mehnaz provided at the agencies that help you find the right places.

yup, mil works :) and yeah, the neighborhood mum and dad are in is perfect for them, so as much as i'd like them to move closer, i know they're happier where they are so i don't like pushing the issue. the area is totally awesome mA :) we've been here for a few years now and love it!

nannies are wayyyy more expensive than montessori and public daycares from the research i've done. the only nanny we could have at $1200 a month is a live-in that we would sponsor from the phillipines through an agency, and thts because that program is government subsidized and you get a tax break on her salary too. thats something hubby's cousin did for his kids, and they love her, but we don't have room for a live-in at our place, and hubby and i decided it would make more sense to go that route when we have more than one kid.

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Guess my friend got lucky with her nanny...that lady used to take her kid to the library for toddler story time, and other places for social stimulation given that she was a professional. That was a few years ago though, and here in the us. Btw, is it easy to sponsor a maid from abroad?

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yeah my bff in the US has a nanny too- i think its more affordable there compared to over here.

if you go through agencies, then from what i've been told by hubby's cousin and his wife, its pretty easy to sponsor a nanny. there are sooo many nannies in our area, mostly philipino and i think most of them are live-in's. the one hubby's cousin has doesn't do the cooking and she said so in her interview with them so they were aware of it prior to hiring her, but she does everything else- laundry, cleaning, activities with their toddler like you've mentioned, etc. she's a huge help for them and their kid loves her. it also means that the cousin's wife can look after #2 who is just a few months old.

i'm not very worried about socialising him- i mean, if he's in daycare, he'll be with other kids, and if i choose to stay home, then i'd be taking him to the library, the park, mommy groups, on play dates etc. so thats cool too.

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^ it is not that bad niksik, there are few family members who have nannies, we used to have one of our friends nanny over for weekend to do the weekly chores. SHe was from Philippines and was amazing, all these people who have nannies seem quite happy but IMPO I wouldn't get one ful time unless I have more than one kid or go back to work when the child is too young to be exposed to daycare environmet.

IMO/in my experience a good daycare can do wonders to the child...

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Nanny-shares might be a good way to afford a nanny. I know a few friends who do this and it helps: Nanny or babysitter? The pros, cons, and questions to ask before you decide | BabyCenter

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I am in the U.S. My nanny charged 900 a month, but it was for only 5 hours a day. She didn't do much cooking except for boiling eggs, pasta and putting marinated chicken in the oven, but she would run groceryerrands andtake my daughter to pre school.