CHILD SERVITUDE IN INDIA-SMALL HANDS OF SLAVERY!

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Just showing the mirror :D

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why did you break all the mirrors in your own house?
the only mirror indians are seeing is the TV screen where all the fantasization takes place which is created by bollywood.

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Think you are losing it .... you are responding just for the sake of responding ...

As for bollywood .... now you don't have to go to your TV to watch it .... you can get the latest here on GS :D

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yeah whatever makes you sleep at night you can believe.
i am happy to help you out.
yeah i know bollywood crap is here also but some like it so let them enjoy.

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Then why are you moaning about Indians bashing Pakistanis?

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So where are you getting your fantacies that Pakistan is better than any other country? Stop Mas****ng with your mind, man. Tkae it easy.

I told you, you do not have to show us the mirror. Last time you saw your own mirror and it is broke now. Go and fix it. Stop worrying about others.

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hahahahah shame shame look at you how you are provoked by saying these filthy things.
u know i also have phd in swearing and if i unleash that on you then u will run away :D
but i will not let my sink as low as you and i will not even complain because i think you must be ashamed of yourself and if not then its even worse :)

Well its been few months that i have been showing mirror to indians no wonder they keep on cracking the mirrors so i have to show then again and again.

Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? [Spinoff from Qandeel b. thread]
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As usual some one intentionally neglected to look at the vital details in DISCLAIMER section … or may be you missed them … its okay may be it was an honest mistake on your part … not to worry … people do make mistakes … for your convenience though here are some facts that I have extracted from the link provided by you.

After a little scrutiny I have found “Note 5” that clearly states that these statistics were furnished by government of India to ILO back in 2001 … now you don’t expect us to believe government of India? ….. DO YOU? … following is the “Note 5” for your review … just to avoid any confusions I have highlighted the above mentioned note in RED … GOOD LUCK …

Quote: Note 5 - Registrar General, Government of India: Census of India, 2001, Working children in India: An analysis of the 2001 census data. Unquote:

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“Naach na jane angan teda” :smiley: … that perhaps sums it up … there is no “disclaimer” section … please READ … that is a note , which is similar to note 7 which says data for Pakistan has been provided by Pakistan beureau of statistics !!!

Here is more … this time from world bank … Poverty reducing in the region … but for one country … you guessed it right !!!
http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTSOUTHASIA/Images/end_poverty_fig2.jpg

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Last time i checked this thread was about millions of child slaves in India
Are u refuting that mr Aam Bandha?

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No one is refuting it ... just pointing out that the problem is bigger in Pakistan, so you should be aware of what is happening in your own home before pointing finger at others.

Kashmir Again, What to do?
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but aam bandha jeeee
u still do not get it right?
we are just simple pointing out to mind your own business
its not us who started this its you indians who are polluting the forum with
anti Pakistani propaganda
then you simply cannot expect from us not to fingerpoint back at you.

  • There are no universally accepted figures for the number of bonded child labourers. However, in the carpet industry alone, human rights organisations estimate that there may be as many as 300,000 children working, many of them under conditions that amount to bonded labour. (US Dept of State, Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 1999, 25 February 2000)

  • The labour commissioner estimated that there were 3,000 bonded child labourers in the Magadi silk twining factories in Karnataka. (US Dept of State, Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 1999, 25 February 2000)

  • Some NGOs estimate that the number of bonded labourers is 5 million persons. However, in a report released during the year, Human Rights Watch estimated that 40 million persons, including 15 million children, are bonded labourers. The report notes that the majority of bonded labourers are Dalits, and that bondage is passed from one generation to the next. (US Dept of State, Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 1999, 25 February 2000)

  • There are 5 million adult bonded labourers and 10 million child bonded labourers. (ILO-IPEC, Mainstreaming Gender in IPEC Activities, 1999)

  • An estimated 15 million children are working under bondage. But other estimates suggest there are 15 million alone in agriculture. (ILO-IPEC, Mainstreaming Gender in IPEC Activities, 1999)

  • Human Rights Watch estimates that there are 300,000 children working in the carpet industry, 270,000 of whom are bonded labourers. (US Dept of Labor, Sweat and Toil of Children: Consumer Labels and Child Labor, 1997)

  • 10 million children were in bondage in 1996. (Volunteers for Social Justice, Jai Singh, statement to the UN Working Group on Contemporary Forms of Slavery, June 1996)

LOCAL STATISTICS

  • 15% of the 100,000 children working in the carpet industry of Uttar Pradesh are in debt-bondage. (ILO-IPEC, Mainstreaming Gender in IPEC Activities, 1999)

  • 70-80% of the 8,000 to 50,000 children in the glass industry in Ferozabad are bonded. (ILO-IPEC, Mainstreaming Gender in IPEC Activities, 1999)

  • 30-40% children in the match and fireworks industry are bonded. (ILO-IPEC, Mainstreaming Gender in IPEC Activities, 1999)

  • Half of 100,000 girl prostitutes between 10-14 in Bombay are from Nepal and kept in brothels against their will. (Penelope Saunders, "Sexual Trafficking and Forced Prostitution of Children", 29 October 1998)

  • A report prepared by advocate Mohammed Siraj Sait and NGO activist Dr Felix Sugirtharaj submitted in the Supreme Court in February 1996 estimates that there are some 1 million bonded labourers in Tamil Nadu. Bonded labour was found to exist in substantial numbers in all the 23 districts of Tamil Nadu and in over 20 occupations. The largest proportion of those in bondage were adult men, with the largest single group working in agriculture and the next largest in stone quarries. It was found that the largest numbers of bonded children were in four industries: silk-weaving, growing flowers, silver work and rolling bidi (local cigars). In the age group below 15, accounting for almost 10% of all those in bondage, there were almost as many girls as boys. (UN Working Group on Contemporary Forms of Slavery, June 1996)

ADULT STATISTICS

  • 90% of the 100,000 women in prostitution in Bombay are indentured slaves. (CATW Fact Book, citing Robert I. Freidman, "India's Shame: Sexual Slavery and Political Corruption are leading to an AIDS Catastrophe", The Nation, 8 April 1996)

  • Over 10-20 million people are subjected to debt-bondage largely in India, Bolivia, Brazil, Peru and Philippines. (Debt Bondage: The Challenge for the Working Group on Contemporary Forms of Slavery, submission to the UN Working Group on Contemporary Forms of Slavery, June 1996)

  • There are 15 million bonded workers. (UNICEF, Atlas of South Asian Children and Women, 1996)

GENERAL NOTES AND OBSERVATIONS

  • Domestic media reported that child labourers were being sold in an organised ring at the annual Sonepur cattle fair in Bihar. (US Dept of State, Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 1999, 25 February 2000)

  • In West Bengal, the organised traffic in illegal Bangladeshi immigrants is a source of bonded labour. (US Dept of State, Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 1999, 25 February 2000)

  • Persons sometimes are sold into virtual slavery. Many boys, some of whom are as young as 4, end up as riders in camel races in West Asia and the Gulf States, especially in the United Arab Emirates, or begging during the Haj. Girls and women end up either as domestic workers or sex workers. (US Dept of State, Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 1999, 25 February 2000)

  • In the following industries, there is a reasonable basis to believe that products were produced using forced or indentured child labour: brassware; hand-knotted wool carpets; explosive fireworks; footwear; hand-blown glass bangles; hand-made locks; hand-dipped matches; hand-broken quarried stones; hand-spun silk thread and hand-loomed silk cloth; hand-made bricks and bidis (hand-rolled cigarettes). (US Dept of State, Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 1999, 25 February 2000)

  • There are element of bonded labour in the gem industry. Parents of 80% of children who worked full time had taken loans against their children's labour. (ICFTU, "Union Investigation Reveals Dirty End of the Diamond and Precious Stone Business", 1997)

  • A large number of bonded children were found working in 4 industries i.e. silk weaving, flower growing, silver work and rolling bidis. ("India court investigation reveal scale of bonded labour", UN Working Group on Contemporary Forms of Slavery, June 1996)

  • It takes up to 15 years for girls held in prostitution via debt-bondage to purchase their freedom. (Robert I. Freidman, "India's Shame: Sexual Slavery and Political Corruption Are Leading to an AIDS Catastrophe", The Nation, 8 April 1996)

  • Bonded child labour is evident in the Indian carpet industry. (US Dept of Labor, Sweat and Toil of Children, 1994)

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Aha ….. game of deceit and lies!.

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Not so fast buddy … you mean to tell me that you can not find DISCLAIMER section on the site originally provided by your self LOL … now you are definitely flipping with a totally different link … what’s next? … ???.
I don’t even know if I can trust you anymore …

Following is the original link provided by you!

General overview - Child Labour and Responses in South Asia

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Read the disclaimer … it is about the map, rest are notes … did you read no7 :smiley:
Disclaimer - The above map does not reflect a position by the ILO on the legal status of any country or territory or the delimitation of any frontiers.

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Such a long post for what … i did not contest the facts … just want to remind you the problem is bigger in Pakistan …read this to enlighten yourself about the condition in Pakistan … your friends have written this report :smiley:

ILAB - Pakistan

Kashmir Again, What to do?
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Aha ….. game of deceit and lies!.

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So did you find the “richest” Pakistanis in Florida :D](“India | International Labour Organization”)

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Note 1 - 2001 figure,* Human Development Report 2007 - 08*.
Note 2 - The scope of this overview has been limited to Bangladesh, India, Nepal, Sri Lanka and Pakistan.
Note 3 - Children engaged in economic activity, including both paid and unpaid, casual and illegal work, as well as work in the informal sector, but excluding unpaid domestic services within own household.
Note 4 - Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics (BBS): Report on national child labour survey 2002/03 (Dhaka, 2003), survey undertaken with the support of the ILO.
Note 5 - Registrar General, Government of India: Census of India, 2001, Working children in India: An analysis of the 2001 census data.
Note 6 - Central Department of Population Studies, Tribhuwan University:* Child labour situation in Nepal — Report from migration and employment survey, 1995/96 (Kathmandu, 1997), survey undertaken with the support of the ILO.
**Note 7* - Federal Bureau of Statistics: National child labour survey in Pakistan (Islamabad, 1996), survey undertaken with the support of the ILO. This figure does not include children engaged in economic activity occasionally or on a part-time basis.
Note 8 - Department of Census & Statistics, Ministry of Finance & Planning: Child activity survey *(Sri Lanka, 1999), survey undertaken with the support of the ILO.
**Note 9* - Given the hidden nature of child domestic work, these figures must be viewed as indicative only.
Note 10 - UNICEF International Child Development Centre: Child domestic workers (Florence, 1999).
Note 11 - UNICEF: Child domestic workers in south Asia (Kathmandu, 2001).
Note 12 - UNICEF International Child Development Centre: Child domestic workers *(Florence, 1999).
**Note 13* - UNICEF: Child domestic workers in south Asia (Kathmandu, 2001).
Note 14 - CAS Survey Sri Lanka (1999).
Note 15 - Figure provided by the Ministry of Labour, Government of India.
Note 16 - W. Rahman: Hazardous child labour in Bangladesh, Department of Labour in collaboration with the ILO (Dhaka, 1996).
Note 17 - Federal Bureau of Statistics: National child labour survey in Pakistan (Islamabad, 1996).
Note 18 - Department of Census & Statistics, Ministry of Finance & Planning: Child activity survey Sri Lanka (Colombo, 1999).
Note 19 - IPEC monitoring reports.
Note 21 - This figure is based on IPEC project survey conducted in the carpet industry in the province of the Punjab in 2001. The Punjab Province had 107,065 children below the age of 15 years and 57,890 children between the ages of 15 and 17 years working full time in the carpet industry. The Punjab accounts for about 80 per cent of Pakistan's total carpet production. Since carpet weaving is a hazardous activity, the desired age for workers is more than 17 years. Therefore, the extrapolated figure for Pakistan would come to 206,194.
Note 22 - Joint study conducted by the Ministries of Home, Social Welfare and Women and Children Affairs.
Note 23 - US Department of State: Country reports on human rights practice 2000 (February 2001).
Note 24 - Rapid assessment by IPEC (2001).
Note 25 - Estimation by an NGO, Lawyers for Human Rights and Legal Aids (LHRLA) (2002).
Note 26 - LHRLA.
Note 27 - Idem.
Note 28 - IPEC Project for Combating Child Trafficking for Labour and Sexual Exploitation, estimation based on a number of reports.
Disclaimer - The above map does not reflect a position by the ILO on the legal status of any country or territory or the delimitation of any frontiers.

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Disclaimer

When you click on Disclaimer it takes you to following info … LOL

Note 1 - 2001 figure,* Human Development Report 2007 - 08**.*
Note 2 - The scope of this overview has been limited to Bangladesh, India, Nepal, Sri Lanka and Pakistan.
Note 3 - Children engaged in economic activity, including both paid and unpaid, casual and illegal work, as well as work in the informal sector, but excluding unpaid domestic services within own household.
Note 4 - Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics (BBS): Report on national child labour survey 2002/03 (Dhaka, 2003), survey undertaken with the support of the ILO.
Note 5 - Registrar General, Government of India: Census of India, 2001, Working children in India: An analysis of the 2001 census data.
Note 6 - Central Department of Population Studies, Tribhuwan University:* Child labour situation in Nepal — Report from migration and employment survey, 1995/96 *(Kathmandu, 1997), survey undertaken with the support of the ILO.
Note 7 - Federal Bureau of Statistics: National child labour survey in Pakistan (Islamabad, 1996), survey undertaken with the support of the ILO. This figure does not include children engaged in economic activity occasionally or on a part-time basis.
Note 8 - Department of Census & Statistics, Ministry of Finance & Planning: *Child activity survey *(Sri Lanka, 1999), survey undertaken with the support of the ILO.
Note 9 - Given the hidden nature of child domestic work, these figures must be viewed as indicative only.
Note 10 - UNICEF International Child Development Centre: Child domestic workers (Florence, 1999).
Note 11 - UNICEF: Child domestic workers in south Asia (Kathmandu, 2001).
Note 12 - UNICEF International Child Development Centre: *Child domestic workers *(Florence, 1999).
Note 13 - UNICEF: Child domestic workers in south Asia (Kathmandu, 2001).
Note 14 - CAS Survey Sri Lanka (1999).
Note 15 - Figure provided by the Ministry of Labour, Government of India.
Note 16 - W. Rahman: Hazardous child labour in Bangladesh, Department of Labour in collaboration with the ILO (Dhaka, 1996).
Note 17 - Federal Bureau of Statistics: National child labour survey in Pakistan (Islamabad, 1996).
Note 18 - Department of Census & Statistics, Ministry of Finance & Planning: Child activity survey Sri Lanka (Colombo, 1999).
Note 19 - IPEC monitoring reports.
Note 21 - This figure is based on IPEC project survey conducted in the carpet industry in the province of the Punjab in 2001. The Punjab Province had 107,065 children below the age of 15 years and 57,890 children between the ages of 15 and 17 years working full time in the carpet industry. The Punjab accounts for about 80 per cent of Pakistan’s total carpet production. Since carpet weaving is a hazardous activity, the desired age for workers is more than 17 years. Therefore, the extrapolated figure for Pakistan would come to 206,194.
Note 22 - Joint study conducted by the Ministries of Home, Social Welfare and Women and Children Affairs.
Note 23 - US Department of State: Country reports on human rights practice 2000 (February 2001).
Note 24 - Rapid assessment by IPEC (2001).
Note 25 - Estimation by an NGO, Lawyers for Human Rights and Legal Aids (LHRLA) (2002).
Note 26 - LHRLA.
Note 27 - Idem.
Note 28 - IPEC Project for Combating Child Trafficking for Labour and Sexual Exploitation, estimation based on a number of reports.
Disclaimer - The above map does not reflect a position by the ILO on the legal status of any country or territory or the delimitation of any frontiers.

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Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? [Spinoff from Qandeel b. thread]
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Disclaimer is under the map and refers to the map only .... please learn to READ data first then get involved in a discussion ... if you hightlight the no 5 point it does not mean that the disclaimer is for that point ... this might work in your madrasas ... but it does not work in an open forum :D

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Err … now we are getting technical here … no matter what you say, you have been cornered …
which has rendered you to be in an awkward, embarrassing and inescapable position my friend … LOL!

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I rest my case!!!

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