chatta (6th) rukun

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*Originally posted by gupguppy: *

Probably because Hajj had not yet been made obligatory...
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Not a valid point; in that case he (PBUH) should mention 4 pillars, there was no compulsion for him to stick on the digit 5 or 4, if the khums was the 5th pillar before because at that time Hajj was not obligatory then Hajj would be the 6th one.

The importance of Khums remained the same; moreover there was no time period mentioned in hadith however two things show that it is related to some later days. One is age of Ibn Abbas and second is when did people from different tribes started meeting the Holy Prophet.

I have already said that there are many other aAhadith in which different articles and/or acts mentioned and counted with some number count. That number count can be 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, or 7. Even more and on same issue in some other aAadith the count and articles and/or acts are different.

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*Originally posted by sadzzz: *
^ interesting... is there a difference between people who are followers of Al-Hadiths and wahibi's?
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I think in Pak there are AHL-Hadiths. They are the same.
And the other term is Salafi.

You are right Rehman1,

sadzzz you can get more information about Ahl Hadith/Wahabies and Salafies in the following latest articles.

Wahabism: Understanding the roots and role models of Islamic fanaticism and terror - I

Wahabism: Understanding the roots and role models of Islamic fanaticism and terror - II

A paper by Sunni writer Zubair Qamar. Please contact Mr Qamar at [email protected] should you require further information.